ASUS Radeon R9 390X DirectCU II OC details leak, has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM

[BaDBoY_uK]

FAIL!

 

[Silent_Scone]

People do exaggerate AMD drivers issues DM but you've exaggerated nVidia driver issues just as badly with that post...

Because he's a delusional ditherer.

Its not, there is no proof of this, it was made up for click baits and you clicked. Hock Line and Sinker.

Like you'd know what's what. You think it's Tonga lol.

It likely is a refresh. I don't expect it to be a complete cut and paste job, there will be incremental performance improvements. Given where it will stand in the market I'd imagine it will be power efficiency that is most notable.

 

[eyetrip]

It's not reasoned at all, he's firstly saying he's not surprised... about a story that was withdrawn almost immediately and pretty much 99% untrue. THat is poor analysis, can't even get that the article isn't true.

Then the rest, complaining about AMD xfire because what, Witcher 3 doesn't have a great profile out of the box... while Nvidia provide driver after driver that crashes constantly for thousands of users in both single card and sli modes. While AMD's 'old' driver works absolutely flawlessly in Witcher 3.

AMD have bad drivers because single card works perfectly in the biggest/latest AAA game but isn't great in xfire. Nvidia are great because their drivers specifically for the game suck for single card, suck for sli and especially suck for an entire generation of Kepler users.....

AMD one small problem effecting sub 1% of all AMD users, Nvidia has a huge problem effecting all users..... AMD have worse drivers.

No, really, most are not just complaing about witcher 3. Ok, well maybe currently, but the last half year has been one abysmal **** up after another. Almost every single bloody game lately. Bar gta v, a game I have no interest in.

Ok, I'm talking about crossfire. If I'd known if going amd I should only go single, well, I would have stayed nvidia. And maybe they should stop offering crossfire altogether in that case.

I'm tired of giving amd chances. Have used both many times, and nvidia has always just been better.

I'm not saying nvidia always get it right, and I downright despise them as a company sometimes, but for a better all round experience, they are leagues ahead.

FACT - because saying that in caps makes it irrefutable on the internet apparently

 

[drunkenmaster]

xfire has pretty much worked for me since I got my second 290, however due to Uni I haven't played much except witcher in this year.

Once again, you're saying Nvidia are better.... yet the massive majority of people having problems in Witcher 3 are Nvidia people. The dozens of pages long thread on nvidia's forums about Kepler problems across a half dozen + games in the same time frame that AMD may/may not have great xfire support seems to go ignored. Entire generation of kepler users(WAY more people have kepler cards than MAxwell) suffering problems across more games than a tiny fraction of AMD users suffered problems with xfire pretty much over the same 6 month period.... yet Nvidia is seen as great and AMD are seen as poor.

More users had more problems with bigger issues with Nvidia over the past 2-3 years but somehow Nvidia are seen as great with drivers. Largely because Nvidia users complain on nvidia's forums while Nvidia shills scream about how great their drivers are elsewhere while denouncing AMD drivers everywhere also.


I'm not saying Nvidia drivers are particularly bad, nor that AMD's are great, but it's pretty clear Nvidia have had major problems in multiple games. Also the whole 15 new driver sets in the first 2-3 weeks of a game until they manage to get them stable is something that has been happening with Nvidia for absolutely years. That is fine apparently but xfire drivers effectiving 1/1000th the number of users is apparently a bigger problem?

Nvidia have sli working in Witcher 3, except for all the crashing, or the woeful sli performance multiple 780/780ti users are complaining about along with the crashing?

If you had 2 x 780ti in sli which cost what £1200 on only 12-16 months ago, you'd have near enough the same performance as a single 290x in Witcher 3... except the 290x would crash less. But Nvidia have clearly superior drivers..... amazing really.

 

[Dave2150]

If they want this to be successful, they need to:
- drastically reduce the temps to 980 levels or lower

Nope, they don't.

The 980ti draws a similar amount of power to the 290X - and it seems to be selling fantastically well, showing that if there performance is there, they don't care about power that much:

Also bear in mind we haven't seen the 390X's performance yet. It has faster memory, faster core, maybe it's using a improved GPU core also?

 

[eyetrip]

At least nvidia release drivers and try to fix stuff. And am guessing most are betas. So they get feedback and fix.

Amd? Silence, waiting, nothing...

And my experience has always been better on nvidia, so I'm obviously going to say they are better.

I would have been happy to stick with my 290's til next year if I felt I got support. But we are now six months or so since elite launched and still **** all info on whether we can spect support for it.

Don't even know if they are looking at it. Same for displayport link failure issues.

I put off many games because of bad support, now God alone knows when will have time for them.

And have you done a study into who's having more problems in witcher 3? You seem to know with some certainty.

And like I said, nvidia can be despicable, and get things wrong. But overall, they are just better at supporting their customers. Even if they make them pay for it.

 

[Silent_Scone]

xfire has pretty much worked for me since I got my second 290, however due to Uni I haven't played much except witcher in this year.

Once again, you're saying Nvidia are better.... yet the massive majority of people having problems in Witcher 3 are Nvidia people. The dozens of pages long thread on nvidia's forums about Kepler problems across a half dozen + games in the same time frame that AMD may/may not have great xfire support seems to go ignored. Entire generation of kepler users(WAY more people have kepler cards than MAxwell) suffering problems across more games than a tiny fraction of AMD users suffered problems with xfire pretty much over the same 6 month period.... yet Nvidia is seen as great and AMD are seen as poor.

More users had more problems with bigger issues with Nvidia over the past 2-3 years but somehow Nvidia are seen as great with drivers. Largely because Nvidia users complain on nvidia's forums while Nvidia shills scream about how great their drivers are elsewhere while denouncing AMD drivers everywhere also.


I'm not saying Nvidia drivers are particularly bad, nor that AMD's are great, but it's pretty clear Nvidia have had major problems in multiple games. Also the whole 15 new driver sets in the first 2-3 weeks of a game until they manage to get them stable is something that has been happening with Nvidia for absolutely years. That is fine apparently but xfire drivers effectiving 1/1000th the number of users is apparently a bigger problem?

Nvidia have sli working in Witcher 3, except for all the crashing, or the woeful sli performance multiple 780/780ti users are complaining about along with the crashing?

If you had 2 x 780ti in sli which cost what £1200 on only 12-16 months ago, you'd have near enough the same performance as a single 290x in Witcher 3... except the 290x would crash less. But Nvidia have clearly superior drivers..... amazing really.

You clearly don't use NVIDIA products. NVIDIA's driver suite is still superior for many reasons, and stability is one of them. Both vendors have their cravats and require user intervention at times, however one vendor requires substantially less of this than the other. XDMA has achieved great things in the last 2 years, but sadly it means nothing when you've got highly questionable gaps between driver releases, which makes the advances completely useless.

Oh, and for the record I've 103 hours on record with the Witcher 3 and not a single crash on 352.86. Which BTW is the W3 Game Ready driver.

 

[Geck0]

You clearly don't use NVIDIA products. NVIDIA's driver suite is still superior for many reasons, and stability is one of them. Both vendors have their cravats and require user intervention at times, however one vendor requires substantially less of this than the other. XDMA has achieved great things in the last 2 years, but sadly it means nothing when you've got highly questionable gaps between driver releases, which makes the advances completely useless.

Oh, and for the record I've 103 hours on record with the Witcher 3 and not a single crash on 352.86. Which BTW is the W3 Game Ready driver.

I would bring the courts' attention to exhibit A, your worship; http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18675135

 

[Silent_Scone]

I disabled browser hardware acceleration in Opera, and not had a single issue since - for which it only started on 353.06.

Strange how I'm not getting any problems in Witcher 3 on a highly overclocked X99 system including things sensitive like cache frequency up and beyond 4.0Ghz, yet I'm not having these problems.

Maybe it's because I don't overclock my GPUs.

Point is, this is a revelation because it's not a regular occurrence. The same cannot be said for AMD's Power Play.


353.06 has issues in Witcher 3 for me, but the driver does not crash. There is no event log to be found anywhere. Only the game crash log. This is a conflict of interests. I would be honest and say if people are experiencing numerous driver crashes in W3 then they need to remove their system overclock before commenting. You would be amazed at how many people refuse to believe there is anything wrong with the overclock, even though TDR events can be highly sensitive to cache and memory stability, least of all CPU stability.

Compare the above, to installing the 15 branch catalyst on a 290X Lightning, only for the driver to crash over, and over, and over in the space of 60 seconds, because I failed to do something that AMD don't care to mention. As I've said to for, very much the lesser of two evils.

 

[Geck0]

I've not had a graphics driver cause a CTD while surfing since the bad old days of the browser wars.

Regardless of browser. Regardless of clocks.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

 

[Silent_Scone]

You obviously didn't overclock a Hawaii card then lol. Or in some cases have to underclock one .

Let's not be coy, I spend a lot of time on screen both for business and pleasure, if I really felt I was getting a rough deal on NVIDIA I wouldn't use them.

 

[Troezar]

I can only speak from my own experience and I was wary of Crossfire having heard the stories but so far it has been very good. That said I have a stable overclock on my cpu and the cards aren't over clocked. That I think it's one of the variables none of us know, how are people's systems configured. Reading these forums there are all sorts people some more technical and thorough than others so I take any reports of issues with a pinch of salt.

Then of course there are the millions of different hardware and software combinations possible. Quite frankly I'm amazed any of it works at all!

 

[Jono8]

Nope, they don't.

The 980ti draws a similar amount of power to the 290X - and it seems to be selling fantastically well, showing that if there performance is there, they don't care about power that much:

Also bear in mind we haven't seen the 390X's performance yet. It has faster memory, faster core, maybe it's using a improved GPU core also?

What a bizarre graph and comparison to post. . You just proved his point.

This thread is about the 390x which looks to be a 980 rival, which it wont be if it performs the same but still draws the same power as a 290x!

 

[Geeman1979]

Yup! it was the 980 he was referring to not the Ti.

 

[Skynet5]

The moment any solid news is announced, if bad, I'm gonna order nvidia. Before their prices go up!

 

[r7slayer]

If its bad news and prices go up your getting first hand taste of what Nvidia are going to be like with no competition. Because if its bad news AMD cant compete with Nvidia top end just mainstream.

 

[MasterOC]

The moment any solid news is announced, if bad, I'm gonna order nvidia. Before their prices go up!

Hehe , I've ordered cards that OcUK will get after the announcement , so if alls not well for AMD I've still got the cards with a price I'm happy with befor prices go up , if it's amazing I'll switch orders . "If" .

 

[subbytna]

Wasn't the 390x to be the new card and the 390 to be the rebranded 290x?

 

[pandem0nium]

The matrix platinum has ram rated at 1500mhz Already. lets hope this isn't a straight rebrand.

 

[Mtom]

The matrix platinum has ram rated at 1500mhz Already. lets hope this isn't a straight rebrand.

Lets hope because it doesn't have vram cooling, and artifacts at 4k because of vram overheating. How could asus slap that bad dcII cooler on their premium 290x....