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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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Post us some benchmarks then as you must have used or be using the card to be able to say this.
Not for another EU country no.
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gpuboss is garbage so ignore it - the fact it thinks being a dual GPU is an advantage tells you enough!
No, that was £345 while including a higher rate of tax than we pay, £325 + delivery at our rate of tax.
Haha yeah
lots of people assuming it'll be awesome (or assuming it'll be a flop) - without benches etc we still don't know!
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I want to know this too? When does AMD reveal the Fury X tomorrow?
Its actually 16th 9AM PST so add 7 hours to that. But its a 24h event so...
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That's add 8 hours, 7 hours would be mountain time in the USA. PST is 8 hours
I've explained why Intel run hotter above.
Obviously it varies with components and what their lifespan is to begin with but try looking at things like capacitors, power supplies and hard drives.. all have MTBF ratings based on ambient/operating temperatures. The cooler you can keep them the longer they last which is why it's preferable not to have a huge source of heat output in the middle of your case if you can help it. Why do you all think AMD are going the expensive AIO cooler route and not just sticking a slab of aluminium/copper with 3 fans on their cards? aftermarket style coolers may cool GPU's well but they don't take into consideration other components.
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None of this makes any sense. How can a card launch and compete with a card that doesn't exist. You're just listing out cards that came a year later, and one that wasn't released. I know exactly what you are trying to say as I had two 3870s, but I'd come from a 8800GTX - most people who owned that card wouldn't have looked twice at the GT as it wasn't a successor. You are the one warping the facts.
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It does not make any sense in your mind only. Funny only rebrands seem OK for you if they are Nvidia ones. But I expect it won't make any sense for you either.
You are on purpose twisting things.
The X1950XT was replaced by the 2900XT. The 8800GT was not competing with the X1950XT. The 2900XT was barely available by the time the HD3870 GDDR4 was released as it was being replaced. The 8800GT and HD3870 were released at the same time. They were competing with each other. The G92 core was rebranded multiple times to compete with newer cores from the HD4000 and HD5000 series,and now you are deflecting and trying to warp your argument.
Yet,you are complaining about rebranding,yet you on purpose ignore the fact that the G92 core was rebranded multiple times to compete with the HD4000 and HD5000 series.
So that gives it something like nearly three years as the Nvidia midrange core until the GTX460 was released.
Give it a rest.
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And this is usually the point where it drops down to petty backwards and forwards because logic goes out the window.
Break down, 8800GT launched, was pegged against AMD's 2900XT, meanwhile in the same range as the 8800GTX yet below it. 8800GTX was still at that time current, not to mention the 3870 was slower than a 8800GT.
Then along came the 3870. It came later, as is the general pattern with these releases. You then labelled off cards that didn't hit the shelves till the following year based on the same node. But you win, no worries. You're absolutely right...
Generally goings on and node drops throughout a 6 to 8 month period.
Compared with 2 years on, and it's the same core with a moderate bump in clocks.
Totally comparable, not.
Break down, 8800GT launched, was pegged against AMD's 2900XT, meanwhile in the same range as the 8800GTX yet below it. 8800GTX was still at that time current, not to mention the 3870 was slower than a 8800GT.
Then along came the 3870. It came later, as is the general pattern with these releases. You then labelled off cards that didn't hit the shelves till the following year based on the same node. But you win, no worries. You're absolutely right...
Generally goings on and node drops throughout a 6 to 8 month period.
Compared with 2 years on, and it's the same core with a moderate bump in clocks.
Totally comparable, not.
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Backtrack! Backtrack!
Silent Scone logic.
TLDR.
Nvidia does rebrand =awesome even if rebrand is fighting for three years against multiple new cores including those one process node ahead.
AMD does rebrand = terribad if fighting against one single new core on the same process node.
So basically Boomstick was right.
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How is correcting you backtracking.
You listed me cards that didn't launch till an entire year later. Someone else can drivel with you.
You listed me cards that didn't launch till an entire year later. Someone else can drivel with you.
The temperature is higher but that does not mean heat is being contained within the die and thereby influencing heat output into the rest of the case. They consume less power to do their work and therefore produce less heat. The higher temperature delta will improve heat dissipation, the required dissipation is just occurring at a higher temperature. In your scenario you would get similar temp/heat extraction because the temperature is required to get that heat extraction and the HS on top of the IHS is sufficient.
It's odd, from your posts its like you understand this stuff (you referred to the meaningless of it unless throttling, noise etc) but don't understand it, or at least choose to connect the dots so badly with an anti-red marker pen and/or phrase awkwardly all of the time-which is why I want to buy the magical cpu's. Anyhow this is off topic and while I do care, I care not enough. Bring on tomorrow.
This is all correct.
The bit you're missing is that the 8800GT was the next generation on from the 8800GTX, it's just they launched a non-flagship card first (in order to compete with the imminent HD3870) and decided not to change the series name. They did this after to add confusion, with the 8800GT becoming the 9800GT and the 8800GTS 512MB becoming the 9800GTX (just the 512MB GTS, the 320MB/640MB ones were older cards from the same series as the 8800GTX)
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I'm not missing anything, consumers don't give a hoot what is a response to what unless you're an avid 'follower'. Being pedantic, the 8800GT was reviewed against the 2900XT.
That isn't a straight rebrand. The 9800GTX didn't come till April the following year and had the total number of cores and higher clock speeds (25-30% faster). That's just under a 5 month gap for a bigger part.
Now tell me that's the same as releasing a card that has the exact same identical core as it's predecessor 2 years prior? It's not nearly as ridiculous.
Answer is you can't, because it's plain stupid. Hence the need for FITH to throw in cards that wouldn't have even existed until 12 months later as an example of direct competition lol.
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