*** The Official Destiny Thread (now includes 2.0 and TTK) ***

ps3ud0 said:
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13090

Apology and seems those CE-only stuff will be sold as $20 uplifts when tTK launches (love to see them try and sell that at £20 - seems the currency exchange issues have been missed by Bungie)

So far also confirming the VIP stuff as per their previous information

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Genuinely surprised by the tone of that update. The senior staff at bungie obviously agreed that he came across like an absolute *("£ in that interview and judging by his comments everybody in the office knows it. He's that guy that's offensive to everybody and gets away with it because he's good at his job technically and says its all banter.

Lord knows why they let him get interviewed when you saw how cautiously worded Deej's interviews were at E3. There was a very carefully crafted corpoprate message being portrayed by him. They should lock this luke smith guy away in a basement somewhere and never let him in front of the press again.

I'm also genuinely pleased to see they have caved in an offered the digital content for sale seprately so you don't have to re-buy your existing content and can choose if you want to spend $20 on the digital CE content.

Overall tone of the update is good. Look forward to hearing about part 2 and what else they have in store for us Year 1 players.

Can't help feeling however that because of all this - the real kick in the nuts: being asked to pay £40 for a DLC pack, after already having bought a season pack for the first 2 DLCs, before being asked to buy yet another season pass for 2 more DLCs next year, has taken a back seat.

But this was public knowledge right from the early days I guess so we all knew what coming.

mid_gen said:
They aren't changing it for change's sake though, they are changing it because there is a balance issue. I don't know how Suros and Vex being the only viable weapons in PvP for the entire lifetime of the game would somehow be a preferable situation.

Balancing is always an ongoing process. It got a lot better in the last tweak, it'll get better next time.
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I've seen the desire to do this in other shooters. All it does is result in the community finding the path of least resistance and coming together on a consensus on the "best gun" and everybody flocking to it. You'll never stop the players desire to get the best rewards with the least effort. The loot cave taught us this.

Even if they get the weapon balance almost right, the weapon that's just a tiny bit better than the others will just get abused to death.
 
Am I reading the weekly update right? They want $20 (so £20) for 3 shaders / 3 class items / 3 new e-motes?!

That seems, well, er crap..

$5 ok I get it but $20 is basically CE/HoW expansion money...
 
Just throw that into the tTK expansion price. It's overpriced already considering the base game with 'all' its content was the same price.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Rybo89 said:
People will pay it.
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And herein lies the crux of the problem. Unfortunately I think enough people will part with their money for Bungievision to see this as a legitimate way to sell content.

I'm still undecided as to whether I'm going to buy TTK, but unless they give us year 1 players something that's actually useful I'm erring towards not buying it.
 
Up to you to decide if you think its worth it now. Community said they wanted to be able to buy it separately.

They've given us it.

benhaha85 said:
And herein lies the crux of the problem. Unfortunately I think enough people will part with their money for Bungievision to see this as a legitimate way to sell content.

I'm still undecided as to whether I'm going to buy TTK, but unless they give us year 1 players something that's actually useful I'm erring towards not buying it.
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to be fair, cosmetic items like shaders and emblems are the perfect things to sell as DLC via micro transactions. They are cosmetic, don't affect anybody else and enable everybody to chose if they want to buy it or not. Don't want a purple fancy shader ? don't buy it. You lose nothing. If you want it ? then buy it. Its how micro transactions should work.
 
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I'm definitely in two minds over buying the Taken King now. I know I'll enjoy it and get a load of playtime out of it, especially as my mates will get it, but I'm having a hard time with the idea of supporting a company that wants to charge me $20 for some crappy cosmetic items. That's the same price as the previous DLCs. It's ridiculous and they're abusing the loyalty of their fans because they know people will pay it.
 
Just don't buy it.

You know you won't be using that shader and emblem as soon as the new Raid comes out and you want to show off you completed the raid in the first week.
 
The clincher on the special items will be in the specifics of the XP boost. If it's an XP boost to level 20,then no thanks. But if it's a permanent XP boost for armour / weapons then that will be too epic to turn down, imo. Once we've go more info on that (if we do at all, that is), I'll make my decision.
 
Phog said:
The clincher on the special items will be in the specifics of the XP boost. If it's an XP boost to level 20,then no thanks. But if it's a permanent XP boost for armour / weapons then that will be too epic to turn down, imo. Once we've go more info on that (if we do at all, that is), I'll make my decision.
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I think it's a class item, so I'm going to take a guess that it's a constant experience boost you can wear.
 
Fallen god said:
DLC that costs as much as a full AAA game, then some simple colours costing £20. Bungie are getting silly now.
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The uncomfortable, perhaps unpalatable reality is that people are going to pay it. I'm tempted but think I'm going to pass on the extra stuff on principle. A few digital assets aren't worth that much imo. 5 quid? I'd probably pay it, not 20.
 
Phog said:
The clincher on the special items will be in the specifics of the XP boost. If it's an XP boost to level 20,then no thanks. But if it's a permanent XP boost for armour / weapons then that will be too epic to turn down, imo. Once we've go more info on that (if we do at all, that is), I'll make my decision.
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If it is a permanent xp boost for armour and weapons, then your ok paying £20.00 for it?
 
I don't feel like Bungie has handled this game very well from the start...
Not enough content, but they are certainly charging for the pittance that's there.

Thought about getting a PS4, and Taken King but I think I'll wait for them to make a few more blunders, and then just wait for Destiny 2. :D
 
My problem, as I think a fair few on here, is £40 for an expansion is a lot. Getting your monies worth =/= value for money. It is a fine line and maybe a small difference but £40 for the original disc content was hard to swallow but now we have DLC for the same price but even less content. It doesn't matter that I would play it for hours so I would be getting my monies worth, it just isn't value for money to pay £40 for such little content.

Unless Bungie start offering some good deals on previous destiny and previous DLC's then I can see the community getting too fractured to keep it alive for the 10 year plan Bungie have.
 
Greboth said:
My problem, as I think a fair few on here, is £40 for an expansion is a lot. Getting your monies worth =/= value for money. It is a fine line and maybe a small difference but £40 for the original disc content was hard to swallow but now we have DLC for the same price but even less content. It doesn't matter that I would play it for hours so I would be getting my monies worth, it just isn't value for money to pay £40 for such little content.

Unless Bungie start offering some good deals on previous destiny and previous DLC's then I can see the community getting too fractured to keep it alive for the 10 year plan Bungie have.
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I said as much earlier.

This whole collectors edition debate has overshadowed how angry we all are about having to pay £40 for DLC.

To then ask us to pay £20 for the digital content by way of their apology is a little weak. Its good that they've relented, but the price is too high to really appease players. The general consensus on social media comments is that gamers feel this should come free when spending £40 on the Taken King.
 
Bungie is just seeing another way to make money, and it gives them positive PR also to make it seem like they are listening...

£20 for what is essentially **** all? On top of a £40 small expansion pack. They'll be laughing at that one, when people buy it.
 
And the fact that bungie think $1.00 equals £1.00. So really we are getting charged $63.00 when in the USA they only pay $40.00 I just don't understand their thinking.
 
Hixxy0 said:
And the fact that bungie think $1.00 equals £1.00. So really we are getting charged $63.00 when in the USA they only pay $40.00 I just don't understand their thinking.
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I understand how the physical editions are more expensive here when you add on import tax, VAT and shipping costs, but I don't understand why the digital version is the same price without having the same overheads. Standard games in the US are $60 when they're £40 here, so why are Bungie expecting us to not object to effectively being ripped off.
 
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