Burnsy / police question (air rifles)

Xordium · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:23

NexusK said:
His thread is aimed at a member who is a policeman, it's not like he's asking a pastry chef.

Yes, it is and how would that stand him legally as he has no proof said person is advising him in a professional capacity. This is exactly the same as a medical thread in principle - advise for something that should be gained in person - with proof etc because the consequences can be severe.

DJMK4 · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:34

bitslice said:
I wouldn't be impressed if I saw a neighbour with one of these, too many people shoot at cats for giggles.
Swap 'cat' for 'child' and you can see the potential for innocently hacking someone to death (for giggles, natch)

Depends where you live, country folk I would say acceptable

Terraced housing maybe not

Semi detached with neighbours either side and some at rear, again not

andi · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:34

s21A Firearms Act

(1)A person commits an offence if—

(a)he has with him an air weapon on any premises; and

(b)he uses it for firing a missile beyond those premises.

(2)In proceedings against a person for an offence under this section it shall be a defence for him to show that the only premises into or across which the missile was fired were premises the occupier of which had consented to the firing of the missile (whether specifically or by way of a general consent)

Also relevant, s161 Highways Act 1980

(2)If a person without lawful authority or excuse—

(a)lights any fire on or over a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway; or

(b)discharges any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of such a highway,

and in consequence a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered, that person is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.”.

Nodiggidy123 · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:36

http://basc.org.uk/firearms/airgun-guidance-and-fact-sheets/

All you need to know is here

Teknobry · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:36

danza said:
You also can't discharge an air weapon within X distance of a public path or road. Something like 15m iirc. OP needs to swot up before armed response get all Mark Duggan up in there.

another reason to ask this on a dedicated shooting forum, this is incorrect advice.

Burnsy2023 · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:57

andi said:
s21A Firearms Act

Also relevant, s161 Highways Act 1980

These are two relevant pieces of legislation. Like has been said it needs to be below 12lbft otherwise it requires a firearms licence but you'll never know unless it's tested.

There could be other offences depending on how/where it's used but that's all very situation dependant.

What is the back story?

teaboy5 said:
He isn't a policeman though.

So that's not a warrant card in my pocket then? Who knew?

Redz · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:59

Burnsy2023 said:
So that's not a warrant card in my pocket then?

I thought you was just pleased to see me.

NexusK · 25 Jun 2015 at 20:59

Burnsy2023 said:
So that's not a warrant card in my pocket then? Who knew?

I don't know but i'm sure the OP is pleased to see you

fendi · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:00

I know a guy that just joined the police force. Is rather chuffed that he will get a nice pension and retire early. I'll ask if he knows and report back.

Redz · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:01

NexusK said:
I don't know but i'm sure the OP is pleased to see you

lol. Too slow

Burnsy2023 · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:02

fendi said:
I know a guy that just joined the police force. Is rather chuffed that he will get a nice pension and retire early. I'll ask if he knows and report back.

There's plenty of officers on the forum - even in the mod team.

Also, if he just joined then I'm laughing at the early retirement and pension...

ShiWarrior · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:05

Burnsy2023 said:
These are two relevant pieces of legislation. Like has been said it needs to be below 12lbft otherwise it requires a firearms licence but you'll never know unless it's tested.

There could be other offences depending on how/where it's used but that's all very situation dependant.

What is the back story?

So that's not a warrant card in my pocket then? Who knew?

It might need to be below 12ft lb
but like somebody else said, what about the size of the garden?

andi · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:06

fendi said:
I know a guy that just joined the police force. Is rather chuffed that he will get a nice pension and retire early.

Did he not do any research then?

NexusK · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:07

Redz said:
lol. Too slow

That's the first time i've been told that

Redz · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:10

NexusK said:
That's the first time i've been told that

All the ladies thinks you are too quick?

Nodiggidy123 · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:10

In relation to size of garden.

If there is any risk of a pellet leaving your property. its too small and will also land you in deep do do.

Join up with airgunforum or the verminhunters fb page. Great bunch of guys who you will learn a lot from

ShiWarrior · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:13

not sure what our garden is, but I recon its about 10 maybe 12 meters long, 6 metres wide?

Nodiggidy123 · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:20

36 ft isn't very long tbh. For example I zero at 35 yards.

I'd recommend searching for a reputable club and learn some basic gun handling before you go shooting a potentially deadly weapon in a confined space.

Air rifle controls are already under scrutiny. Don't be that person who ruins it for all the responsible air rifle shooters out there

ShiWarrior · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:21

Nodiggidy123 said:
36 ft isn't very long tbh. For example I zero at 35 yards.

I'd recommend searching for a reputable club and learn some basic gun handling before you go shooting a potentially deadly weapon in a confined space

im not the one with the gun, its my neighbour

Nodiggidy123 · 25 Jun 2015 at 21:23

Well iirc if its causing you alarm. They might be commiting and offence.

Sounds pretty irresponsible either way if you got kiddies running around next door.

Have you tried talking to them? Might pay to point them in the direction of the links provided