Business logo help

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Thank me later.
 
So, I come back to see a reply count in the 20s and then on opening the thread I realise.....

As I said in the original post - I don't want to give the business name away at this stage.
But in answer to the question - Yes, I own a 4 letter .com (also the .net) but I felt that using the domain.com as a business name was a little 2000's.
We have been using xxxx computers but did wonder if we should just drop the "computers" entirely, so that it's simply xxxx

At the moment cash is tight. There are people who will design and as people have said no, it isn't very expensive, but need to go into it with at least an idea.

I just don't know which looks more professional - just the xxxx name, the "right font" in the right colours etc.
Or if the logo whould be on something IT related, a classic symbol that shows it is "computing/IT" firm. The name xxxx isn't one you would immediately associate with computers or IT.

I know, might be easier if I just gave you the name, but I have my reasons for not doing so at this stage :)
 
But in answer to the question - Yes, I own a 4 letter .com (also the .net) but I felt that using the domain.com as a business name was a little 2000's.
We have been using xxxx computers but did wonder if we should just drop the "computers" entirely, so that it's simply xxxx

well if you've got the domain then just use XXXX, you don't need to worry about adding the .com, point was you might not want to use XXXX if you hadn't got the domain

At the moment cash is tight. There are people who will design and as people have said no, it isn't very expensive, but need to go into it with at least an idea.

this was posted on here before: fiverr.com doesn't matter if cash is tight, you can still get someone to do the logo for you
 
Its a little like asking a house painter to keep painting your house different colours till you see the one you like, at their expense. ....then not telling them which house is yours.

I would suggest giving some examples of logos you like as a guide. Otherwise its like the proverbial needle in the haystack.
 
Way too many ACME institutes out there. You may want to see if the name is taken first and foremost.

You would be much better off with something more creative but if you are happy with it I could slap something together in Illustrator for you.
 
You might own the domain but if you are going into business with someone else and bring the domain in it is no longer yours. It belongs to the business.
 
You might own the domain but if you are going into business with someone else and bring the domain in it is no longer yours. It belongs to the business.

and if it is a 4 letter .com domain it is potentially worth a 5 figure sum at least

how much is the partner investing in the business? Think the OP might need to talk about equity etc...
 
There are people who will design and as people have said no, it isn't very expensive, but need to go into it with at least an idea.

You're missing the point. A designer CREATES concepts and IDEAS, that's their purpose and their job. Somebody who takes somebody's idea and just creates in in a program is often known as a Mac-Monkey... not really a designer.

this was posted on here before: fiverr.com doesn't matter if cash is tight, you can still get someone to do the logo for you

Yea. As Stufflol points out encouraging websites like them brings down the whole design industry. Why spend 100s or 1000s of pounds on a Professional when you can go to www.badcornytemplatedesign.com and get your new logo created by a 17 year old student for just £10!

Fiverr >.<
 
The domain in question is a four letter dot com. 1st Letter, 2nd Letter, 3rd Letter, 2nd Letter repeated
So it is easy to remember and it is also a "sound-a-like". It doesn't lend itself to "computing" or "IT" naturally, but I do feel it could easily do so.

I am aware of it's "value" - a fortnight doesn't pass when I don't receive an email asking if the domain is for sale. I always reply telling them that if their offer clears my mortgage we'll talk.

This wasn't an email about the business aspect. I know what bringing the domain into the business does, but I am also aware of what paperwork can also do and the statements written upon them and signed by interested parties :)

Once I'm "logo'ed" I'm happy to share the name, just holding back for time being :)
 
You're missing the point. A designer CREATES concepts and IDEAS, that's their purpose and their job. Somebody who takes somebody's idea and just creates in in a program is often known as a Mac-Monkey... not really a designer.

On the flip side, many people think that they can just say "I want a logo" with no sort of direction at all and you pull it out of your arse instantly.

It seems like the OP is doing this to some degree, as they really seem to not want to give any sort of direction, I can only imagine the person they've got doing their graphics work gets the same sort of thing.

I've had it before "Why should I have to tell you what I want? You're the designer" which is then followed with "That isn't what I wanted at all".
 
The domain in question is a four letter dot com. 1st Letter, 2nd Letter, 3rd Letter, 2nd Letter repeated
So it is easy to remember and it is also a "sound-a-like". It doesn't lend itself to "computing" or "IT" naturally, but I do feel it could easily do so.

I am aware of it's "value" - a fortnight doesn't pass when I don't receive an email asking if the domain is for sale. I always reply telling them that if their offer clears my mortgage we'll talk.

This wasn't an email about the business aspect. I know what bringing the domain into the business does, but I am also aware of what paperwork can also do and the statements written upon them and signed by interested parties :)

Once I'm "logo'ed" I'm happy to share the name, just holding back for time being :)

Being as vague as you are is really not helping anyone.
 
Being as vague as you are is really not helping anyone.

lol is how it sounds.

a four letter doesn't mean a thing. neither does theory when launching a startup. execution = value. having skills = value. and by the sounds of it so far the idea sounds like jack. as does this graphics designer that needs ideas fed to him.

too cheap to pay for a logo, i am guessing too cheap to pay for a decent shareholders agreement, that will run you over a grand. and that comes with advice, not just a document. you will want to know what is in your best interests, as will your partners.

also bringing a random domain into a startup does not give you more equity, funny if you think it does.

all imo of course :D
 
Going to add with the others.

It's a bit difficult for any graphic designer to come up with a logo design when you're not given the name of the business that you are designing for - the name is often incorporated in the design if possible.

Good luck.

BB x
 
What can I say...thanks? Wel to those that did help...a little.
I don't need direction on business - thanks, but I'm ready to make my own mistakes on that front.
I don't think the name was really required at this stage as it doesn't matter, I really wasn't asking for designs - just ideas.
As a couple of posts have said - I cannot go to anyone, even tame people "I need a logo" and that is all I ask them.
So, the business name is (because of the domain name and only because of this) is CIFI (I own cifi.com & cifi.net)

I was using the name CIFI Computers, however cannot decide to remain as CIFI Computers and incorporate the word "computers" in or around the logo or if to drop it entirely to just CIFI.
The other option being CIFI IT - but I cannot help feeling there are far too many "I's" there.

With regards the logo itself and giving a brief - there lies the problem. I'll know a logo when I see it but trying to describe it is difficult.
So professional rather than corporate. Monochrome rather than "jazzy colours"
Plain simply images to compliment the name rather than those being the most prominant part of the design.

I'll take a look at Fiverr and fivesquid - but opinions on the name with regards just the name or additional words, appreciated.
 
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I would personally stick with CIFI Computers. It is a longer name than CIFI but it makes it clear what the company is involved with. If you were to become the next mega-company, then would be a good time to re-brand to CIFI.

I'd more than likely stick to a word mark or letter mark logo. But it may be worth considering an icon/combo.
 
If I were you I'd be tempted to buy cifi.co.uk as it uner £500.

I'd also add a word after the name as on its own it doesn't mean much like stated above. Solutions, computers, something.
 
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