Really upset an Irish man on Saturday...

So explain exactly why you honestly think the animosity exists. No holds barred.

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So explain exactly why you honestly think the animosity exists. No holds barred.

Does he need to explain why?

But really the fact is the vast majority of Irish people have no problem with the British, Most of my friends are English. This was just 2 drunk fools in a pub, no different then the English guy who told me to "**** home paddy" when i was over watching a Spurs game last season.
 
The OP demonstrates quite well there are Irish people who harbour animosity towards the English. It is pathetic that these people would even remotely think that an individual is somehow responsible for historical events, yet here we are seeing them (from both sides) in full flow.

I agree that people who harbour grudges need to get a grip and get on with seeing how much we have in common, rather than carrying a chip on their shoulders.

I think half the time they do it because they think it is the thing they're supposed to do.

Was in Eastern Europe on a holiday when some Aussie guy started talking to myself and a mate - he asked us where we were from, my mate answered first 'Ireland'... Aussie guy immediately responds 'ah, my family are from Ireland, shame about this place, full of bloody poms...'
Mate looks at me, I say 'Hi, I'm from London...' Aussie suddenly looks sheepish 'ah just joking mate, loads of my family are from England, I'm going to live in London this summer...'

Was just a stupid Aussie backpacker kid but it was amusing - he was just going along with what he thought he was supposed to say... calling brits 'poms', assuming an Irish person would be anti British....
 
As an Irish person I would not be offended by this comment, just correct the mistake and that would be it. It sounds like you just got a couple of chip on their shoulder types. They do make me roll my eyes :)

To all those asking what was said to cause such offence, you need to remember the animosity between Britain (specifically England) and Ireland. To your average Irish person this is not something they will dwell upon, or judge English people by. But as the OP found out, some do take it all to seriously.

Imagine if a Scottish or Welsh person was mistaken as being English. I made that mistake once when I asked a Welshman what part of England he was from. ;)

Aren't you Northern Irish though, making you from Britain?

I can understand an Irishman (Ireland) getting upset over the matter, but not enough to be a **** about it. It's the same when other nations ask if I'm English, they get corrected but I'd never ever think about going mental.

Some people are just ****s.
 
Aren't you Northern Irish though, making you from Britain?

I can understand an Irishman (Ireland) getting upset over the matter, but not enough to be a **** about it. It's the same when other nations ask if I'm English, they get corrected but I'd never ever think about going mental.

Some people are just ****s.

Ironically from my experience you have your assumption the wrong way round :)

A nationalist from Northern Ireland would be far more likely to get upset about this kind of mistake than a person from Eire (not from Ulster).

I was born in nationalist West Belfast and was brought up during what is commonly referred to as "the troubles". It was common for us to be indoctrinated to hate the English, yet despite this I failed to hate an entire nation. I consider myself Northern Irish but have no problem whatsoever identifying myself as both British and Irish.
 
He over reacted I think,Hell, I've said FAR worse to Irish truckers on my travels and just got a laugh!

I find the Irish (be it Northern or Eire) to be some of the easiest going people about tbh.
 
Aren't you Northern Irish though, making you from Britain?

I can understand an Irishman (Ireland) getting upset over the matter, but not enough to be a **** about it. It's the same when other nations ask if I'm English, they get corrected but I'd never ever think about going mental.

Some people are just ****s.
Dual citizenship here, and couldn't care if someone calls me irish, british or norn irish. Unfortunately there are people in Ireland north and south who get pretty upset if you get their nationality wrong. Mainly based on their religious/political persuasion.
 
To be fair, some of the Scottish are just as bad. :o
Fond memories of the man behind a counter in the hotel I was checking into bellowing 'I'M NOT BRITISH, I'M SCOTTISH' when he asked my nationality for my form :D
 
Aren't you Northern Irish though, making you from Britain?

Some people are just ****s.

Britain is just an island so no-one born on the island of Ireland can be British. They can either be Irish or Northern Irish. I'm not sure what the term should be for someone born in the UK but it shouldn't be British!
 
Britain is just an island so no-one born on the island of Ireland can be British. They can either be Irish or Northern Irish. I'm not sure what the term should be for someone born in the UK but it shouldn't be British!

United Kingdomish?

Wouldn't worry about it, probably classic chip on their shoulder republicans.

For the OP: This. Probably the same kind of reaction that you'd get if you flippantly referred to an East Belfast Loyalist as "Paddy".

All saliva and gnashing teeth.
 
This wee island is still full of much butt hurt, so you are going to get reactions like that occasionally because, you know, people. Most of us (i.e. myself and people I know from here) couldn't give a toss about such throwaway comments. Try to explain to the same type of person why not everyone from the Middle East is an Arab, and they'll miss the irony of the situation.

For future reference the correct etiquette in the same situation is to grab your pint, get up from the table, and move on to find better drinking buddies without sticks up their asses.
 
Nice impartial opinion there!

I am simply sharing my experience, unlike most. I couldn't give a toss if it's full of eejits who hate the English, my experience tells me it isn't. This place could have 2 people in a debate and 3 opinions sometimes...
 
To add...

....most southern Irish couldn't give a flying **** what you say or think, they are the friendliest and some of the brightest people on the planet. They have a whit that is second to none and an ability to swear better than any other nation on the planet without it sounding rude, god knows how, they just do. Irish family and a tonne of Irish friends and colleagues. Can see myself retiring to Dublin one day, love the country, love the people, love the outlook they seem to have on the work life balance.

I think your view of Ireland is through some seriously rose tinted specs. Most Irish people (that can actually get work nowadays) work their backsides off, those that can't either languish on the dole or up sticks and work their backsides off in another country, jobs are scarce and the cost of living is extortionate. As for retiring to Dublin, the stag do capital of Europe, good luck to you.
 
I knew plenty of Southern and Northern Irish at uni and have since visited Belfast and Dublin a few times and never had anything approaching that grief OP. I think you just stumbled on a moron, most Irish, like most people everywhere are chilled and realise the past is the past and a pointless waste of time to dwell on. Sadly a few tards seek to validate their pathetic existence by dwelling on the past, forget and move on. (And smash his sister and poo through his letterbox etc etc :p)
 
At least you knew he was Irish. With my accent Englishmen don't know where I'm from and mostly always think it's the West coast of Scotland.
 
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