Isis Troll. How many yards down your road would he have made it??

Vulcan · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:18

SonniLombardi said:
So you think it's fine for him to do that without upsetting people and causing repercussions? on British soil?

Yes, I don't care who it upsets.

The Funktopus · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:24

Keyboard warrior type replies aside, I'd have asked the guy why he was still here if he was such an advocate of Islamic State. Seriously, this country will never be governed along the lines of as parts of Iraq and Syria are now, and if that was honestly the type of regime he wanted to live under, he should realise that there's no future in this country for him, and he should leave.

kissenger · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:31

OldCoals said:
It's a bloke with a flag.

It's a bloke with a flag... belonging to a proscribed terrorist organisation who have, among other things, brutally tortured and killed British civilians. And he's walking around the seat of British power with it (i.e., Westminster).

Amp34 · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:38

kissenger said:
I'm not sure it is his right to be able to do that. Surely there is some kind of public order law which would at least justify an arrest if not actually being charged? Come to think of it, why could this guy be charged with a more serious crime like treason? Haven't Isis declared Britain an enemy and aren't we currently bombing them?

Regardless, if the law does protect him then it should be changed immediately. There should be zero tolerance for things like this.

The police spoke to him, then decided he wasn't breaking the law. You can't just arrest people on the street for XYZ if there isn't a law against it...

Vulcan · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:41

kissenger said:
It's a bloke with a flag... belonging to a proscribed terrorist organisation who have, among other things, brutally tortured and killed British civilians. And he's walking around the seat of British power with it (i.e., Westminster).

Yes? So what? If he wants to be an edgy ass-clown, let him.

kissenger said:
Regardless, if the law does protect him then it should be changed immediately. There should be zero tolerance for things like this.

What should the law state then?

cheesyboy · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:45

I don't see what harm comes from parading such a flag. IS themselves, yes there's obviously a problem - a big one. The flag... not so much.

I would not like to see this country descend into the sort of censorship that won't tolerate such expression, regardless of how distasteful. We should hold ourselves higher than that.

MadMouse101 · 6 Jul 2015 at 09:55

LoadsaMoney said:
Should kick the **** outa the country.

+1

RDM · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:00

The man is a bit of an idiot but, thankfully for large swathes of the population, being a bit of an idiot isn't illegal.

Freedom of expression and all that.

Johno please? · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:14

McBain said:
****.

Typical ISIS coward, using a small child like that basically for protection.

haha, exactly mate.

An islamic fundie using a human shield, whats new? Thats their favourite tactic.

Skunkworks · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:31

Maybe I’m giving this guy/ISIS too much credit, but wouldn’t it be a useful tactic to waste police/security services time watching an otherwise innocuous person? He supports ISIS but doesn’t want to join them in person and doesn’t want to commit any violence, so he does his part by helping to stretch the security services time and effort.

markweatherill · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:34

Perhaps he got separated from a Gay Pride parade.

Liquiduk · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:37

Honestly seeing this doesn't anger me or frustrate me, far bigger issues in the world today than this guy parading an ISIS flag in central London.

kissenger · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:44

Longbow said:
What should the law state then?

Something along the lines of, it's not allowed to advocate a coup against UK government and constitution, which is what support for ISIS amounts to. I.e., they should reintroduce sedition as a criminal offence.

stopper · 6 Jul 2015 at 10:54

SonniLombardi said:
PCSO's aint got a clue!

Neither have the Police though, none of them are trained in Law. The only thing they are trained in, is doing what they are ordered to.

Jono · 6 Jul 2015 at 11:09

Should've set the flag on fire, while he was wearing it.

subbytna · 6 Jul 2015 at 12:36

I thought inciting hatred was a crime? No other reason for him doing that than to stick his fingers up at us.

Hitman_Leon · 6 Jul 2015 at 12:38

Jono said:
Should've set the flag on fire, while he was wearing it.

There was a child sat on his shoulders on the flag.

Should have engaged him in conversation telling him how ridiculous and offensive he looked, also how much of a bad person/parent he was placing his child in that situation.

RyanF · 6 Jul 2015 at 12:39

If he hadn't got the kid I'd have definitely thrown a punch or two in his direction.

chief barker · 6 Jul 2015 at 12:43

Nothing to see here people, move along.

Scam · 6 Jul 2015 at 12:47

Looks like he should have been arrested to be honest: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33406768

One relevant passage from the Public Order Act 1986, which covers England and Wales, says someone is guilty of causing "harassment, alarm or distress" if they "display any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby".

The pan-UK Terrorism Act 2000 is also relevant. "A person in a public place commits an offence if he (a) wears an item of clothing, or (b) wears, carries or displays an article, in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation."

If I recognised the flag I would probably soil myself a little bit and expect him to blow up any second or pull out an AK47. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. I'm guessing that would easily fall under 'causing alarm or distress'.

And I'm sure wearing the flag easily falls under the Terrorism Act 2000 as stated above.