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Soldato
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The strange part of all this, the same people making those comments will expect a low wage earner to wipe their butts when they get old and grey on their nice pension. Will they still hold the same judgement then? I highly doubt it.
If everyone in these jobs quit tomorrow in quest of better endeavours, the country would grind to a halt.
Some people are just good at things that don't pay. That's the sad fact of life. It's brave doing what you enjoy and are good at regardless of pay. Wish I could do that.
If everyone in these jobs quit tomorrow in quest of better endeavours, the country would grind to a halt.
Some people are just good at things that don't pay. That's the sad fact of life. It's brave doing what you enjoy and are good at regardless of pay. Wish I could do that.
How do you measure lazy though? personally I believe that people should be able to live a reasonably moderate life by putting in a reasonably moderate amount of effort while a good many seem to think that people are lazy if they aren't slaving away all day, atleast 6 days a week.
I love the fact that pretty much everyone here is assuming that those in low paid jobs are only there because they don't want a better job. That somehow working a McJob was a concious decision for all of them.
I'm sure it was for some, but personal circumstances, especially those of birth, mean that many have no choice. Not to mention the obvious: the further up the greasy pole you get, the fewer jobs. And the more those jobs go to the right face, not the right person. So even if they wanted a better job, it's highly likely they can't get one. And please don't spin me the fantasy line about them being able to get the better job if only they tried harder. Life really is not that simple.
I'm sure it was for some, but personal circumstances, especially those of birth, mean that many have no choice. Not to mention the obvious: the further up the greasy pole you get, the fewer jobs. And the more those jobs go to the right face, not the right person. So even if they wanted a better job, it's highly likely they can't get one. And please don't spin me the fantasy line about them being able to get the better job if only they tried harder. Life really is not that simple.
Indeed - people lives and situations are all different - many are tied to an area due to say family (maybe caring for a disabled or elderly relative) or other circumstances and have to deal with what is available in that area.
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Todays culture disappoints me tbh. I often wonder if it's me that's broken because I expect more from people.
"Get out of it, what you put into it" I've always tried to do but it gets me absolutely nowhere and makes me despise aspects of my life.
It made my mind up for me about my job... I work for a retailer and it is going the way of it's American owners so it's all about 'how it looks' rather than what's right and what's ethical it seems....Out of there in 5 weeks thank god! Lost count of the amount of times I've used "it's not rocket science..."!! As soon as something good and unexpected came up I got pulled out of the meeting and replaced and that made my mind up!
"Get out of it, what you put into it" I've always tried to do but it gets me absolutely nowhere and makes me despise aspects of my life.
It made my mind up for me about my job... I work for a retailer and it is going the way of it's American owners so it's all about 'how it looks' rather than what's right and what's ethical it seems....Out of there in 5 weeks thank god! Lost count of the amount of times I've used "it's not rocket science..."!! As soon as something good and unexpected came up I got pulled out of the meeting and replaced and that made my mind up!
Has there been a period in history in this country where it has been better to be poor? Seems to me that society hasn't really lost it's way at all and that we are still making sure that most people in the country have food, shelter, healthcare and education. Which, for the vast majority of the history of this country, really hasn't been the case.
However we will always have those that consider this generation to be worse than the last, to be failing in some way, to be heading for the inevitable collapse.
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Everyone has different views and takes on every aspect so you can't just take them two quotes because it's got your back up haha.
Yesterday some selfish moron decided to jump on to the M62 and cause hours of delays , why didn't he just kill himself In his house? , instead he caused everyone else grief in his last moments of his sad little existence.
Some people will agree with that and some will be sympathetic to the kid who jumped.
Nothing to do with social attitudes
Yesterday some selfish moron decided to jump on to the M62 and cause hours of delays , why didn't he just kill himself In his house? , instead he caused everyone else grief in his last moments of his sad little existence.
Some people will agree with that and some will be sympathetic to the kid who jumped.
Nothing to do with social attitudes
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Lazy in that sense i think would be people who are able to work but choose a lower standard of living even though they want more. I am talking about people who are not trying at all. That doesn't include people who are happy with a simple life style and are able to get by without needing more. You don't have to work to not be lazy, you could be earning money else where and not have to work. What i mean is someone who is getting by without working through other means is not necessarily lazy, excludes state handouts. Although not every one on welfare is lazy either.
I should add that I am one of the lazy people. I look at people who succeed and I see that they have applied themselves. What I don't see is, they had an advantage that i didn't.
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I'm pretty sure how people react to a suicide is a decent barometer for their attitudes to lots of other things.
It was just an example , just as I said at the top of my post you can't just take 2 quotes or the mid of mine .
Social Attitudes have come a long way over a short time .
LGBT , Women , BME groups etc.
All have had a positive increase in social standing and acceptence .
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I've been in employment for 41 years and it is my experience that lower paid workers do more work than their lazy higher paid colleagues or bosses.
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I'm also often shocked by society. I have no idea why so many people are into "social responsibility". Rationally you get nothing from it, so there is literally no point.
It's like people use feelz to determine their courses of action instead of reason and logic.
It's like people use feelz to determine their courses of action instead of reason and logic.
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I'm aware that you're socially responsible, but you definitely have a different sense of social responsibility to what I have.
That's more just elitest a holes making fools of themselves. I've pointed it out in the past on this forum aswell.
I like how people judge happiness and success in life byby the jobs they have, the things they own and the money in their bank account. Sure money makes life easier but I've seen rich people kill themselves and poor people have the time of their lives with their family at an adventure golf.
Bragging about helping those less fortunate than yourself is selfish too.
Then again, this is GD, home to some of the most dysfunctional people I've ever experienced.
Bragging about helping those less fortunate than yourself is selfish too.
Then again, this is GD, home to some of the most dysfunctional people I've ever experienced.