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AMDJoe said:
HDMI 2 can be used if you use a displayport adapter.

Limited stock is due to limited HBM supply.

We do give a toss. All the feedback I receive is communicated to AMD.
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Seriously Joe??

So we need to buy an adapter (That does not exist by the way!) after paying £550 on a graphics card that is touted as being designed for 4K gaming? I am still waiting for a valid reason why AMD did not simply make the Fury HDMI 2.0, would really really love to know the reason.

I was told exactly the same when I bought the R295X2, an adapter will soon be out!!!

Mind pointing me to an adapter that will let me game at 60hz at 4K on my TV with a Fury X?
 
Mayh3M said:
Do you have something against Nvidia specifically? Or are you just an irrational AMD fanboy? Best to go with your head in either case.
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ALXAndy spent about 3mths singlehandedly trashing every X99 thread pre-launch, continued to preach to everybody for months afterwards that the 5820K is crippled and rubbish and now apparently owns one himself. Make of that what you will.
 
AMDJoe said:
perform a strip tease at your birthday party :P
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Damn... I was really looking forward to this too :(

Care to explain why if Fury X supply is low due to HBM, why Fury Pro supply isn't low?

I am guessing the reason for low supply is either difficult full chip yields, huge chip for AMD, and its a load of cores, maybe its common for the dies to have some pretty crappy cores, these are then cut down for Fury Pro?

Either that or bad coolers, and AMD wants to avoid supplying any more whiney coolers?

Also, I really think the Fury pro should be dropped in price. Is it so high to make the Fury X look more appealing? I mean paying to put your own AIO onto a Fury would cost more than it would to just buy a Fury X outright... Then again, it isn't a huge amount more than some 980's, yet destroys it in performance....
 
Any news on if the voltages are getting unlocked on the furys soon? Seems a bit unfair compared hugely oc 980 to stock fury x.
Plus OP your paying for the sweet water cooler to don't forget and the pump noise shouldn't affect the next batch.
 
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AMDJoe said:
We do give a toss. All the feedback I receive is communicated to AMD. Things take time! And when it comes to drivers, yes AMD could release more drivers but they wouldn't be an acceptable standard. And reading several threads on here and on other forums, it looks like the green team are having driver issues as well.
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You personally might give a toss but I believe the people that can change things at AMD don't.

Yes Nvidia are not perfect when it comes to drivers BUT at least they release regular drivers, I had a R295X2 and received no drivers for months, that is totally not on and makes AMD look like a bunch of amateur's
 
AMDJoe said:
HDMI 2 can be used if you use a displayport adapter.

Limited stock is due to limited HBM supply.

We do give a toss. All the feedback I receive is communicated to AMD. Things take time! And when it comes to drivers, yes AMD could release more drivers but they wouldn't be an acceptable standard. And reading several threads on here and on other forums, it looks like the green team are having driver issues as well.

If you have any feedback then DM me! I'll pass it on to AMD. If you have any technical issues then message me, I'll get our technical support engineers on it. They only things I can't do is lower the price of cards, talk about future products, give you free cards, and perform a strip tease at your birthday party :P

I'm happy to see people buying cards that they want and not being swayed by other people. It's that freedom of choice that's awesome whether you're after a 980Ti or a Fury X. As long as you can game they way you want then I'm happy.
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Andy did well to withstand the barrage. :D

Regarding Drivers we release one driver set a month (or thereabouts) and it's usually of pretty good standard too. Hence you don't see us shovelling out 'hotfix' drivers every week.

I've seen Joe do a strip tease, it's not a pleasant sight. :(
 
AMDMatt said:
Andy did well to withstand the barrage. :D

Regarding Drivers we release one driver set a month (or thereabouts) and it's usually of pretty good standard too. Hence you don't see us shovelling out 'hotfix' drivers every week.

I've seen Joe do a strip tease, it's not a pleasant sight. :(
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I think all us ex-295x2 (and 290 Crossfire owners) see things a little differently tbh m8 ;)

There's quite a few of us on here now who've made the jump due to poor software support (and been MUCH happier for it!)

We know you have to tow the company line a bit nowadays Matt (I miss the old Lt tbh, always good for a laugh :D) but the facts (ex-owners) don't lie man.

Like I said before, I'm hoping AMD improve generally in the software area because you're getting beaten to a pulp tbh (in general feel and usage imo). I'll be keeping an open mind when it comes to the next gen of product though, AMD do make quality hardware :)
 
Firefox35 said:
You personally might give a toss but I believe the people that can change things at AMD don't.

Yes Nvidia are not perfect when it comes to drivers BUT at least they release regular drivers, I had a R295X2 and received no drivers for months, that is totally not on and makes AMD look like a bunch of amateur's
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swapped (yes swapped) my 295 x2 for a 980 with chug

no regrets :)

everything works again

so glad i didn't go freesync :D
 
On most message boards the voltage unlocking of FuryX is the main issue. We really need updates on this since the card has been 'out' for over a month now.
Hdmi 2.0 is an issue for those who game on 4K tv's but I guess it is a really small market at the moment. I'm sure the next AMD cards will have it or an adapter will be out in the next few months.

I know AMD don't have to unlock voltage but since one of the engineers claimed it is an 'overclockers dream' at the launch conference it is a pretty big issue.
 
fs123 said:
there is only about 3-5% difference between the stock 980ti and the stock FX. And stock FX vs OC 980ti is apples to oranges.
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Its not though, there are aftermarket cards (that Andy was looking at) that are 30% ahead of the furyx out of the box... Where are the aftermarket fury x's, where are the overclocking tools?

Andy didn't want an nvidia card, which is fair enough, but that isn't the question he asked in the opening post. He's justified the purchase of a card that performs worse than his current setup based on "jam tomorrow", but surely cant be surprised that people are going to be puzzled, or not agree with the justification.

You cant really ask for objective results based reasoning and then be surprised at peoples reactions when you throw that out the window and buy a worse card just because of the branding.

Andy has even said that he wont be overclocking his FuryX, so out of the box aftermarket performance vs. Stock furyx performance was exactly the comparison he asked for, even if you think that is "unfair".
 
andybird123 said:
Its not though, there are aftermarket cards (that Andy was looking at) that are 30% ahead of the furyx out of the box... Where are the aftermarket fury x's, where are the overclocking tools?

Andy didn't want an nvidia card, which is fair enough, but that isn't the question he asked in the opening post. He's justified the purchase of a card that performs worse than his current setup based on "jam tomorrow", but surely cant be surprised that people are going to be puzzled, or not agree with the justification.

You cant really ask for objective results based reasoning and then be surprised at peoples reactions when you throw that out the window and buy a worse card just because of the branding.

Andy has even said that he wont be overclocking his FuryX, so out of the box aftermarket performance vs. Stock furyx performance was exactly the comparison he asked for, even if you think that is "unfair".
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Any aftermarket 980Ti clocked high enough to "beat the Fury X by 30% out the box" is far more expensive than a Fury X. Maximum PC and DigitalFoundry shows that a 1250MHz 980Ti isn't much faster than a Fury X, I doubt the extra 50Mhz you get out of the box on most of the cards is enough to make it beat it by 30%.
 
pgi947 said:
lol you can't buy amd purely out of fear that they're going to go bust, you should be buying things as a consumer that fit your needs not your conscience. They won't go down, at least not in the way some on here think they might, they have too many fingers in too many pies to vanish without trace.
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I agree they won't go down, but they might just pull out of the discreet gpu market, and that would be a very bad thing for all of us. Fear of a single market is one of several reasons I don't want to support Nvidia. The next biggest one is the way they've strong-armed the professional market for the last fifteen years or so. Until the Fire cards about Nvidia had everyone bent right over the barrel, and they are being very reluctant to change in that sector. Workstation cards have cost me very dear over the years compared to anything I've ever bought as a consumer.

Firefox35 said:
I'm not pro Nvidia, I actually bought two Fury X's and a 295X2 in the past year, had to return the Fury X's due to the whinegate issue.
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I apologise for making it read like I was singling you out. Your comment was simply a convenient one to reply to in order to make my point, but I was talking more about a prevailing attitude than any one member posting.
 
andybird123 said:
Its not though, there are aftermarket cards (that Andy was looking at) that are 30% ahead of the furyx out of the box... Where are the aftermarket fury x's, where are the overclocking tools?

Andy didn't want an nvidia card, which is fair enough, but that isn't the question he asked in the opening post. He's justified the purchase of a card that performs worse than his current setup based on "jam tomorrow", but surely cant be surprised that people are going to be puzzled, or not agree with the justification.

You cant really ask for objective results based reasoning and then be surprised at peoples reactions when you throw that out the window and buy a worse card just because of the branding.

Andy has even said that he wont be overclocking his FuryX, so out of the box aftermarket performance vs. Stock furyx performance was exactly the comparison he asked for, even if you think that is "unfair".
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Listen I don't need to justify anything. I'm not the sort of person who needs to validate and justify his life, because out of everything in my life the computer is the least important thing to me (there's my wife, my great family, my life away from the computer, my RC model cars etc).

What you're trying to do here is rubbish what I bought, and that's a nasty game to play. Olbocks can you get a 980ti that out of the box will out perform a Fury X by 30%. I just ain't having that. Maybe in a couple of games with the wind blowing in the right direction and so on? but universally over every game? poppycock.

The drivers for Fury X are still incredibly premature, much like the release. I'm not worried AT ALL about the drivers getting better because I absolutely know they will. Then, when the card actually circulates (because right now it's rocking horse poo) and you can meaningfully overclock it?

Mind you now I'm falling into your argumentative trap. I don't overclock any more and nor do I want to.

Bottom line, should I actually need this justification you seem to think I crave?

Out of the box the Fury X *will* be quicker than what I had. It *will* be quieter, cooler, and use around 200w less power than my rig did and I won't have to worry about drivers.

So please, stop with the 980ti jizz fest because it's all elementary. I've bought the card, so now you're just wasting your breath (and looking rather spiteful and nasty whilst you go about it).

Cheers.
 
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