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Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible
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In what way was it alluding to any football supporter's forum or club?
I think a lot of people do not understand politics in Scotland where people will vote for one party for the Scottish Parliament and a different party for national elections.
Some of their support in the last election came from people who thought that being the 'king maker' they would have more power. The Tories and their press created a big fuss over this in the election, Scotland vs England, something they now have to deal with. They are that low in Scotland so I suppose they have very little to lose. I don't think the SNP will get as high a share of the vote if they tried again in a referendum so they would be stupid to try at this moment.
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What are you basing that opinion on? The polls would disagree with you.
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Is that the same Westminster which was headed by Scottish people for the majority of the last 20 years?
What are the current polls showing the percentages as?
The whole idea of a second referendum is a slap in the face to anyone who voted No. I didn't realize a generation could potentially be counted on one hand. Purely undemocratic and nothing but throwing the toys out of the pram because the result wasn't what the SNP wanted.
You can call out broken promises all day, truth is it is still early days yet from the vote. Just because things haven't happened yet, doesn't mean they won't.
You can call out broken promises all day, truth is it is still early days yet from the vote. Just because things haven't happened yet, doesn't mean they won't.
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Wrong.
That Scottish people are a part of our democratic system, can get involved in it as much as they wish and have as much chance of anyone else of rising to the top.
England doesn't 'rule over' Scotland - England and Scotland are a partnership which is perfectly demonstrated by the fact that over the last two decades more often than not has it been Scots who have held the highest elected position in the land.
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With a Westminster Parliament containing ~80% English MP's it is obvious that other nations, Scotland, Wales and Ireland's influence is very small, so a charge of 'rule over' would hold water. That is why you get resentment. It is not an unique position. Canada has it with Quebec.
As for Scots in high office in Westminster I have yet to meet any Scot who considers Bliar a Scot. Like various people who have left the land of their birth they become more 'new country' than some of the residents.
As for partnership, the British economy is geared for London and the South East, as admitted by the likes of Eddie George, the ex-Governor of the Bank of England so it even lets it's citizens in the north of England down let alone Scotland, Wales or N. Ireland.
I've seen you mention this before. What polls are you talking about? Please link us to the latest so we can all see this huge swing. I'm presuming it was taken over at WoS?
Is it not reasonable that parliament has ~80% English MPs, given that the population of England is over 80% of the population of the UK?
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Even if it was Wings Over Scotland how does that make the poll any less credible? It would be an independent pollster carrying it out.
How is that any different to the people of Aberdeen complaining that they are 'ruled over' by Edinburgh?
We are 'better together' and the majority of Scots who voted in the referendum agree. Thats why we had a referendum, the people made their choice on this exact issue (Rather than the 'OMG PEOPLE VOTED SNP THAT MEANS THAT THEY WANT INDEPENDANCE1111'), it's done and dusted.
England is a better place as a result of being in a union with Scotland and Scotland is a better place as a result of being in a union with England.
He was born there and is of Scottish heritage but if you insist Gordon Brown also ruled the nation and spent his entire political career as MP for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath, which last time I checked was... Scottish.
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But they're happy enough to be ruled over by Brussels and the EU instead?
Once in a generation. Look up the definition. You don't seem to be a be able to argue the point anymore so you are covering your ears and crying wrong at everyone you disagree with.
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If you had actually read the thread you would know that I have already explained multiple times why the next referendum will be completely democratic no matter how soon it happens.
I have read this thread, your posts have been 99% dribble, the 1% that made for good reading, you would then contradict yourself within the next few posts.
I'm all for the Scots wanting more power over themselves despite already having the most, more than Wales or Northern Ireland. The fact that they are considering one so soon after 55% said No, is the issue. It screams of we didn't get our way, onward to round 2.
It is too soon to cry fowl over broken promises, things take time. By all means do so in a few years.
I think he meant if there was another referendum now the result would still be a no vote, which the polling numbers you posted still seem to suggest (even if it is narrow).
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