Is Our Universe a Fake?

SlyReaper said:
Suppose it's possible to simulate a universe. Then in any given universe, one would expect there to be many such simulations running. And in each of those simulations, more simulations will be running. And in each of the simulated universes within each simulated universe, there will be even more simulated universes. And so on and so forth. So, there will be far more simulated universes than real ones. All we can see is this universe - what are the chances that ours just happens to be the top-level original universe?
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SlyReaper said:
All we can see is this universe - what are the chances that ours just happens to be the top-level original universe?
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Zero :p
 
matdom said:
Can you prove a chair is a chair?
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No! You can only provide a concept of a chair. :eek:

Anything with 4 legs and a top can be construed as a chair or table depending on perception and size of observer.

As far as I am concerned, if you can stick your bum on it comfortably, its a chair. :p
 
If this is all a simulation then at least the computer its on should be able to run Crysis, hell maybe even Arkham Knight!
 
But if we a simulation, therefore we made the computer in a simulation, so which is therefore another construct of our programming in a simulation. :confused:

What did I just say! :D
 
Why waste your time thinking about it?

Genuine question. I just do not see the point in worry about this kind of stuff.

Either way it doesn't make any difference as I see it. Atoms, etc, are a kind of code. So whether you're software or made of physical particles there's very little difference. Both systems have laws. Laws of software and laws of physics.

There is no difference either way.
 
We cannot possibly be living in a "fake" universe.

(We are after all here talking about it)

The nature of the universe is however in question. I would refer you to David Deuth's (Sp?) book "The Fabric of Reality"

Its a bit of an eye opener! :eek: :eek:
 
Always said and will always believe. :)

If you can think about it, its already been done somewhere in the universe.
By the mere fact we can construct that thought means, it has already been construed somewhere in the universe. ;)
 
I do strongly believe in the multiverse theory. I think at some point our current method of scientific discovery will itself have to evolve otherwise we will hit a brick wall.
 
DampDog said:
Surely if you leave the cat in the box for long enough they all become dead?;):)

It's like everyone just assumes Stephen Hawkins is super intelligent. And yet, bloke in a wheel chair with a laptop strapped to it. How do you know he's not just "Googling" it all and taking the cash??
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titaniumx3 said:
I do strongly believe in the multiverse theory. I think at some point our current method of scientific discovery will itself have to evolve otherwise we will hit a brick wall.
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And it will, just not sure when. It's already begun anyway with QP and what have you but still a long way to go for "science" ;)
 
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There is a low tide water mark and then there is this ... this ... thread.
 
FoxEye said:
Why waste your time thinking about it?

Genuine question. I just do not see the point in worry about this kind of stuff
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Why? Because it might actually not be religion to consider it a possibility.

One of the best ways you can prove this theory is by studying that which is dictated by probabilities (quantum mechanics).

Computers cannot generate random numbers - they're pseudo-random. If the universe was a simulation, the probabilities which dictate quantum mechanics would not be random - they'd be pseudo-random.

All we'd have to do is run a double slit experiment for a few thousand years and find out one of the slits is favored.

Simple really...

Unless the computer running the simulation uses quantum mechanics to generate its random numbers, in which case, we'll never know.
 
I'm not sure how a computer could be big enough to store enough information for every single particle that makes up a Universe, unless it only generates that information when it has been observed by an entity in that Universe
 
Roar87 said:
I'm not sure how a computer could be big enough to store enough information for every single particle that makes up a Universe, unless it only generates that information when it has been observed by an entity in that Universe
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Has ignorance ever been a good defence?

"I don't get it so, uh, it's probably not right ..." is less than compelling narrative.
 
Watch The Spirit molecule, it's a documentary which can be found on Netflix and it's an experiment done by Rick Strassman. But what is reality? An external world that we can consensual agree on for example a diamond is worth this amount of money, a foot ball team wears a certain kit, the current president of America is Obama. These things change with time but if there is an internal world that can be accessed that can be consistence and constant then what we are describing is something that is actual.

I used to be massively skeptical and called BS but again I know for a fact what I said is true.
 
cHk4 said:
Watch The Spirit molecule, it's a documentary which can be found on Netflix and it's an experiment done by Rick Strassman. But what is reality? An external world that we can consensual agree on for example a diamond is worth this amount of money, a foot ball team wears a certain kit, the current president of America is Obama. These things change with time but if there is an internal world that can be accessed that can be consistence and constant then what we are describing is something that is actual.

I used to be massively skeptical and called BS but again I know for a fact what I said is true.
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'What is reality?' is hardly a new concept but it does seem to attract those who want theirs to be significantly different to the actuality of their own.

Make of that what you like.
 
Sliver said:
I'm thinking about a sun, a star, made from vanilla ice cream. Do you honestly believe that exists somewhere in the Universe ? :p
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I think you'll find that's in the Cornetto system. Three major planets, Viennetta, Tutti-Frutti & the un-named planet 99.
 
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