Am i justified in my complaint or being petty?

wont have been much sleeping done then :p

He's efficient, he sleeps with his 'orifices' well lubed up and in a good position for clients, even when he's asleep!

These 'big projects' he speaks of, are just corporate groupies.
 
I generally get in 30 mins early most mornings and get myself ready for the day but I don't open up until the time we start business.

Just turn up do your usual morning routine but don't start turning things on until the time you start working.
 
what in the hell do you work at!? at least let it be something life critical if you are kipping on your works floor man!

I run the IT dept for a firm with a couple of sites around the UK. We had a massive hardware failure on a Friday evening in Northampton. It took out some 20tb of critical data. Fact is I was responsible for it and did what needed to be done.

also we did an office move not long ago which meant moving all our infrastructure over a weekend. You take what sleep you can get when these kind of things happen.
 
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I personally think that this is nothing to be proud of. Good management should have made you go home for your own welfare. Spending that long in the office is surely degrading to your health and should be avoided. This is ignoring the Working Time Directive issues.

I actually couldn't agree more and wouldn't recommend it. In fact I actually sent the rest of the team home and "took one for the team" as they say.
 
I personally think that this is nothing to be proud of. Good management should have made you go home for your own welfare. Spending that long in the office is surely degrading to your health and should be avoided. This is ignoring the Working Time Directive issues.

+1

Very rarely does doing this kind of stuff get rewarded. Rather the opposite. If you are looked after for doing this, by flexible hours or salary then fair enough. If it becomes normal then its bad.

Every day at work i like to try and arrive 15 minutes or so early to get myself a cup of tea/coffee and prepare for the day ahead.....

That said this is different. This is very little extra time, and you're in anyway.
 
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There no problem in doing extra if its to your advantage. If its seen as extra effort and appreciated.

The problem is when you make it your normal and its not rewarded, and it doesn't suit. so if you stop doing it the perception will be that your not putting in the effort. You're digging pit for yourself.
 
Every day at work i like to try and arrive 15 minutes or so early to get myself a cup of tea/coffee and prepare for the day ahead.

recently though it appears the management feel it is ok not to arive late thermselves and i end up opening the depot and getting everything switched on etc when i arrive.

ive sat down now during my lunch hour and worked out that 15 minutes per day, 5 days a week, for 32 weeks, minus any days off holiday. i have effectly worked 35 hours of unpaid overtime to date this year.

i have mentioned this to my manager and he has shrugged it off saying everyone has to do it and he does loads etc etc.

am i being petty for complaining about this?

i wouldnt mind if it was on odd occasions but its not and i have worked almost a week extra for free.


do what we do you come in when you like you start the minute shift starts not a moment before.
 
It massively depends on the role as well. If it's a dead end job then I would turn up on time and not early - sit in your car for 15 minutes and take a flask. The 'and any other task' in the contract is for tasks it's not a change to the hours that you work.

If it's a job with prospects then it's your personal assessment as to if the 15 minutes extra is going to be noticed and, more importantly, there's going to be any benefits from it.



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I actually couldn't agree more and wouldn't recommend it. In fact I actually sent the rest of the team home and "took one for the team" as they say.

your hr department is likely investigating you for possible fraud etc at this point if that's true.

lone working is usually a sign an employee is commiting fraud/a scam/something as they have to maintain the charade without people realising. most such scams get exposed when an employee is forced to take unexpected leave ie sick.
 
your hr department is likely investigating you for possible fraud etc at this point if that's true.

lone working is usually a sign an employee is commiting fraud/a scam/something as they have to maintain the charade without people realising. most such scams get exposed when an employee is forced to take unexpected leave ie sick.

Brilliant, well if this is the case they won't have anything to find. I guess this explains several promotions and year on year rises I've been getting. :rolleyes:

For what it is worth I was also poached by our now hr director who used to be the HR director at my old firm. Either way I didn't come in here to defend my position, I am happy with that. I was merely using examples to show that 15 mins a day is nothing.
 
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lone working is usually a sign an employee is commiting fraud/a scam/something as they have to maintain the charade without people realising. most such scams get exposed when an employee is forced to take unexpected leave ie sick.

Yup, the first thing that city trading compliance and security teams look for is changes in habits as this indicates just that. Arrive at different times, use different lifts, doors, PC's, desks, phones are all prime indicators.
 
Either way I didn't come in here to defend my position, I am happy with that. I was merely using examples to show that 15 mins a day is nothing.

Nah, you came in here trying to look down on the OP and it's backfired.
 
Nah, you came in here trying to look down on the OP and it's backfired.

Is that right is it? Personally I can't see anywhere where I was looking down at the op, merely answer in the ops question but if that's what you think then fair enough. Backfired it may of but I have said nothing in here that isn't true.

In fact I would go as far as to say that many IT managers have found themselves in the same position many times over in disaster recovery situations.
 
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