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AMD's GPU market share drops again, even after the release of Fury X

i see more and more ppl buying gaming laptops instead of desktop
duno if thats just my friends or its a thing
 
I am a Nvidia user and have used AMD in past also. I think it is important for AMD to do well as that will keep Nvidia innovating. No competition means bad news for us end users.
 
I think Greg might have something. I think nVidia are getting to the point that AMD don't even matter that much any more in regards to competition and they're playing their own game in regards to increasing features/revenue etc (just like Intel I suppose).

A sad state for sure :(
 
It makes me wonder how much of the £150 G-Sync premium is down to NVidia absolutely dominating the GPU market.
 
queamin said:
Nvidia needs Intel cpu/apu to run their cards, intel don't really need the cards and I would think gaming is quite small in Intel eyes.
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However if Intel did a SoC on a board with some fast Ram, you could have a home sever blade set up. Where you stack you board on top another for more power. If you need more cores Ram or graphics grunt, you buy another Intel board. Gaming would be massive for them, they would effectively kill Nvidia as they would compete for rack space.
 
JediFragger said:
I think Greg might have something. I think nVidia are getting to the point that AMD don't even matter that much any more in regards to competition and they're playing their own game in regards to increasing features/revenue etc (just like Intel I suppose).

A sad state for sure :(
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If AMD didn't matter there was no need to release a 980Ti days before the FuryX launch and castrate TitanX sales. All the recent price drops for 980's and 980ti are due to AMD competition even if the Nvidia crew don't want to admit it.
 
Predictable considering how badly they screwed up the Fury-X launch.

They could have launched an air cooled version for $100 less with a HD7990 style air cooler and that would have solved everything, the air version would be notably cheaper than the air cooled 980ti and the AIO version still notably cheaper than the AIO cooler 980ti.

However due to classic AMD management decisions we ended up with the no air cooled version so the AIO one gets compared to air cooled 980ti's and the result is a card that costs the same and doesn't perform better, gg AMD, gg >.>

It's like watching "special children" playing football, just a constant feeling of "what are you doing morons!!".
 
ubersonic said:
Predictable considering how badly they screwed up the Fury-X launch.

They could have launched an air cooled version for $100 less with a HD7990 style air cooler and that would have solved everything, the air version would be notably cheaper than the air cooled 980ti and the AIO version still notably cheaper than the AIO cooler 980ti.

However due to classic AMD management decisions we ended up with the no air cooled version so the AIO one gets compared to air cooled 980ti's and the result is a card that costs the same and doesn't perform better, gg AMD, gg >.>

It's like watching "special children" playing football, just a constant feeling of "what are you doing morons!!".
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Yes they do seem to have messed up with the launch pricing. The FuryX can and should sell well if it is priced a bit lower than a 980Ti since it doesn't really match it unless you are gaming at 4K. The Fury Pro should be where the 390X is priced and all other cards can sell much better if priced slightly lower than Nvidia equivalents. The Fury Pro competes with a gtx 980 but is priced at £450 when you can get a 980 for £380.

AMD needs to realise that their brand name is not as strong as Nvidia's so pricing must be lower than it's equivalents. Market share is more important than trying to move away from budget brand status at the moment.
 
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Seems poor business doesn't stop the greedy from taking rather sizable payouts still :mad:

Following layoffs earlier in 2015, the company is working on additional cost cuts in order to bolster the balance sheet, even as the business appears to be collapsing. "As such, we find these types of large payments, once again, to be extremely distasteful," Rasgon stated.

The analyst believes that the size of these grants indicate that the management and the Board of Directors do not have the interests of the shareholder at heart, while viewing these grants as a sign that things are continuing to worsen at AMD.

"AMD is at a tipping point, with their core PC business under significant pressure from a weak market and increasingly poor competitive position," Rasgon added.



Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-rat...-executive-bonuses-unbelievable#ixzz3jLPLz9N7
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they're either supremely confident that they have something coming that will rocket them back to success, or they are draining every last drop they can before it all falls over
 
fs123 said:
Yes they do seem to have messed up with the launch pricing. The FuryX can and should sell well if it is priced a bit lower than a 980Ti since it doesn't really match it unless you are gaming at 4K. The Fury Pro should be where the 390X is priced and all other cards can sell much better if priced slightly lower than Nvidia equivalents. The Fury Pro competes with a gtx 980 but is priced at £450 when you can get a 980 for £380.

AMD needs to realise that their brand name is not as strong as Nvidia's so pricing must be lower than it's equivalents. Market share is more important than trying to move away from budget brand status at the moment.
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i don't think pricing was a BIG issue with FuryX i think that little availability and promises were the main problem. AMD hadn't released a gpu in a while and everyone was expecting a LOT. So when it came out with some rattling noise and in poor stock it was handed some thrashing.
Also i think people don't realize just how good of a move was from nVidia to release the 980Ti just before FuryX.
Also should I even start on AMD's marketing department? I mean you see 970, 980 and TitanX coming and yet you disclose nothing to the general public about when you intend to release the card>?
Also that little stunt with the demolisher youtube videos or whatever seemed so both bad directed and LOW.
 
andybird123 said:
they're either supremely confident that they have something coming that will rocket them back to success, or they are draining every last drop they can before it all falls over
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I think they have had some nice finfet 16/14nm designs on the burner for a while. but of course you cant release parts with those designs without the manufacturing process.

I think they were expecting (just as much as nvidia was) for 16/14nm to drop in 2014 when it was first announced. then of course all the push backs that occurred. So instead they back adapted a finfet design as a test part and created the 285, then by extension from the 285, adapted the designs memory controller for hbm and made fiji. Then as a continuation more than likely changed the memory controller design on the original finfet parts for the HBM controller.

which is more than likely why we have seen no new parts across the entire segment for a while.
 
It is unbelievable how bad the IT press is these days. I mean Fury x was released just a month and a half ago with 50 cards on the market, yet every 'news' site is monkeying the same topic with big letters saying: even though Fury released it does not change anything'. I mean seriously? Of course low amount of cards released AFTER the research was conducted will not change the landscape of the market. Fury shipments will start making waves (if any) next quarter. Then everyone can announce doom and gloom
 
ubersonic said:
Predictable considering how badly they screwed up the Fury-X launch.

They could have launched an air cooled version for $100 less with a HD7990 style air cooler and that would have solved everything, the air version would be notably cheaper than the air cooled 980ti and the AIO version still notably cheaper than the AIO cooler 980ti.

However due to classic AMD management decisions we ended up with the no air cooled version so the AIO one gets compared to air cooled 980ti's and the result is a card that costs the same and doesn't perform better, gg AMD, gg >.>

It's like watching "special children" playing football, just a constant feeling of "what are you doing morons!!".
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Very pc of you.
 
a month and a half ago, yet all the threads went dead fast
really?
let me ask you this, why has ALL the news of Fury died? I mean, 970/980 were talked about for way MORE than 1 month, same with Titan X.
Fury(X) came and gone, it was apathy incarnated.
I bet it costs them a small fortune to make each card and their profit margin is quite small and they probably can't get the prices down so easy, while 980ti is probably much cheaper to produce.
Fury shipments will not start making waves, at all.
AMD needs to try and bounce back with the next series.
 
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