Ashley Madison user accounts leaked online

If you were a single bloke and so inclined, wouldnt you join a site promising sex from married women with no strings attached or commitment?

To me this is an even lower form of behaviour. You may not be hurting your own partner/family, but potentially destroying another family whilst calmly walking away having taken no risk and lost nothing yourself.
 
wonder what % of them were fake accounts set up by the company in order to send messages to the free members to get them to subscribe - at least that seems to be the business model of quite a few dating sites

If you can get your wife to believe that then "winner" ;)
 
To me this is an even lower form of behaviour. You may not be hurting your own partner/family, but potentially destroying another family whilst calmly walking away having taken no risk and lost nothing yourself.

I've always found this moral point an interesting one that I don't really know where I stand on - as on the one hand its not like the single person would be forcing the other person to do anything and personally if I had a partner with such inclinations I'd rather they got on with it and out of my life than live a lie. At the same time aware that people often have thoughts they never follow through on, etc.
 
Though after reading mumsnet with the amount of wives who havent let their husbands even touch them for years I am not surprised that sites like this were popular
 
Who cares... The relationship is well beyond dead at this point, we don't live in the 50's anymore, attitude towards everything have changed.
 
I bet the ones who paid extra for their details to be deleted, but be feeling angry and nervous right now :D

I see pastebin has most of the account details on their site for anyone to access :eek:

Yeah according to financial records Ashley Madison made $1.7m in 2014 in payments for permanently deleted the data and sexual preferences.

I would presume there will be a class action in the states against them for this.
 
People cheat for many reasons, some of them not as vile and scummy as so many of you so readily brand them.

Some actually 'cheat' consentually, as a sort of roleplay. The 'thrill of being caught misbehaving', despite the partner already agreeing to it taking place ahead of time. It's basically an open relationship that both sides pretend is closed, just for the fantasy... or something like that. Some develop like this when it becomes apparent that one partner cannot fulfil the other in some capacity.

Paralleling that, many people actually know their partners are cheating, yet accept it because at the end of the day that partner still comes home to them. Whether they go looking for sex, or whatever, it's the being together that keeps them together.

Then you have the abusive relationships where, for one reason or another (or perhaps many reasons) the 'cheating' partner is unable to outright end the relationship and so sneaks off to seek some sense of happiness elsewhere. In some cases, this later gives them the courage and security to finally end the nasty relationship and escape to the better one - Sounds stupid, but I've known a fair few that went this way and if the 'cheat' had instead just faithfully remained in the toxic relationship you'd all be branding them cowardly idiots, I expect...

Having never cheated on someone myself, as well as having been cheated on, I am instinctively on the same high horse as many people here. But having also learned some of the many reasons people do this, I'm no longer so quick to judge them all based on just my own very simplistic, monotone morality.
 
Yeah according to financial records Ashley Madison made $1.7m in 2014 in payments for permanently deleted the data and sexual preferences.

I would presume there will be a class action in the states against them for this.

If there is a class action it could mean some hurt for a lot of data collectors in the industry.
 
It's not right to release the data without knowing the details as to what actually happened.

Some may have joined but never actually done anything, then some people may have been put on there without consent (no email confirmation apparently) - then there is the aspect as to the timing, what if somebody joined when single - does it have the join date?.

It seems like it's going to cause allot of grief to a number of people who may not have actually cheated at all. Collectively punishing them to get one back at cheaters is hardly the right thing to do.

People cheat for many reasons, some of them not as vile and scummy as so many of you so readily brand them.

Some actually 'cheat' consentually, as a sort of roleplay. The 'thrill of being caught misbehaving', despite the partner already agreeing to it taking place ahead of time. It's basically an open relationship that both sides pretend is closed, just for the fantasy... or something like that. Some develop like this when it becomes apparent that one partner cannot fulfil the other in some capacity.

Paralleling that, many people actually know their partners are cheating, yet accept it because at the end of the day that partner still comes home to them. Whether they go looking for sex, or whatever, it's the being together that keeps them together.

Then you have the abusive relationships where, for one reason or another (or perhaps many reasons) the 'cheating' partner is unable to outright end the relationship and so sneaks off to seek some sense of happiness elsewhere. In some cases, this later gives them the courage and security to finally end the nasty relationship and escape to the better one - Sounds stupid, but I've known a fair few that went this way and if the 'cheat' had instead just faithfully remained in the toxic relationship you'd all be branding them cowardly idiots, I expect...

Having never cheated on someone myself, as well as having been cheated on, I am instinctively on the same high horse as many people here. But having also learned some of the many reasons people do this, I'm no longer so quick to judge them all based on just my own very simplistic, monotone morality.
Nice to see a more nuanced view as opposed to the usual black & white thinking on here.

Whilst I don't agree with non-consensual affairs outside of marriage I can't help but feel this was a very bad thing to do. People make mistakes and people make mistakes when married. Affairs happen and happen often - that is hardly new - but often they go under the notice of everyone else but those involved and stop and then life moves on for all. I can't help but feel that a lot of damage is going to come from this for events that are well past or fleeting or only conceived in the imagination.

Not cool all around. I don't see why people say well done to the hackers they aren't exactly highly idealistic here are they - vengeful if anything - Ashley Maddison have held multiple years worth of CC transactions for no reason and lied it appears about the demographic of their users and those users may not even be real because the emails given weren't verified and a load of blokes who most likely should have known better are now going to wreck their families because they couldn't keep their pants on or envisaged that situation.
Echoes pretty much my views on the matter.
 
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People cheat for many reasons, some of them not as vile and scummy as so many of you so readily brand them.

Some actually 'cheat' consentually, as a sort of roleplay. The 'thrill of being caught misbehaving', despite the partner already agreeing to it taking place ahead of time. It's basically an open relationship that both sides pretend is closed, just for the fantasy... or something like that. Some develop like this when it becomes apparent that one partner cannot fulfil the other in some capacity.

Paralleling that, many people actually know their partners are cheating, yet accept it because at the end of the day that partner still comes home to them. Whether they go looking for sex, or whatever, it's the being together that keeps them together.

Then you have the abusive relationships where, for one reason or another (or perhaps many reasons) the 'cheating' partner is unable to outright end the relationship and so sneaks off to seek some sense of happiness elsewhere. In some cases, this later gives them the courage and security to finally end the nasty relationship and escape to the better one - Sounds stupid, but I've known a fair few that went this way and if the 'cheat' had instead just faithfully remained in the toxic relationship you'd all be branding them cowardly idiots, I expect...

Having never cheated on someone myself, as well as having been cheated on, I am instinctively on the same high horse as many people here. But having also learned some of the many reasons people do this, I'm no longer so quick to judge them all based on just my own very simplistic, monotone morality.

An open relationship isn't cheating is it. And I doubt the visitors of this website really fall into the latter category.
 
really - perhaps consider another context - murder

someone plans to kill someone well in advance, with a cool head

vs

someone gets in a bar fight or catches someone breaking into thier own home, they overpower the attacker/burglar but in the heat of the moment, adrenaline pumping they go too far and the attacker/burglar ends up dead


most people would tend to take the opposite view to you - premeditated being much worse

you explain to your wife the drunken one off incident on the stag do, with lots of remorse, you slipped up, it won't happen again etc..

vs you explain to your wife that you actively signed up to a cheating website , contacted several women, eventually found one to meet up with - clearly not a mistake but something you planned, decided to do over a number of days, with a cool head

you'll find that though most women would be upset with either, most would be much more upset with the planned online encounter than with a drunken one off mistake

adrenaline, alcohol etc.. affects the judgement of every human being to some extent

I did consider murder before i posted.

Consider a prison with two cells, and two inmates. You are captured and taken to this prison, the guard asks you to choose who will be your roommate, the first person killed someone in a fit of rage who annoyed him. The second, after finding out his wife cheated on him, killed his wife, then man she was cheating with.
 
Those aren't really equivalents.

We're comparing a drunken one night stand with later remorse vs a planned one via a dating site.

You'd have to compare someone who burst in on his wife with another man and killed them both in the heat of the moment and later regretted it vs someone who found out and plotted then killed them deliberately at a later time.

Most people would have more sympathy with the first.
 
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I do wonder when some famous people are going to be outed as a result of this. There is probably some money to be earned by doing a bit of data wrangling and then comparing with lists of politicians, senior civil servants, premiership team lists, soap stars/actors real names etc, etc.....then selling any finds to newspapers.

Perhaps some potential too for law firms - for example look for people using bank e-mail addresses, find on linked in, check if MD level or above... contact wife - work on multimillion pound divorce...
 
Various reports now that homosexual, lesbian and bisexual people may have be outed in countries that are not at all tolerant.

Still, serves them right hey?
 
It in't a crime to be gay.

Sexual orientation is irrelevant.

People like to complicate things or jump on moral high horses. "poor me" stories, "she doesnt love me any more" whatever. Grow a set and deal with it. Life isnt always rainbows and fluffy clouds wrapped in IronWarrior style bedlinen - sometimes u have to work through the hard times and those times are what define u as a person.

Snaking off to some website to organise trysts is premeditated plain and simple. you cannot even cite "your honour i was drunk and her boobs were a flapping in my face".

Ergo in your premeditation you accepted that there could be consequences for your frolics
 
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