Latest immigration figures.

strange how people can come from far off places in the EU and find work then whereas some groups of natives won't even look as far as the next town...

'Get on your bike' as Norman Tebbit said...

there have been plenty of 'immigrants' where I've worked too... only they've tended to be from France, Germany the US etc.. I don't feel threatened by them

How can someone from the EU come to this country and live here on £6.50 an hour?
 
Almost starting to wonder if Dowie is a troll. Also I notice the more you ignore him the more he ramps up. Hallmarks of a troll.

Actually calls people speaking out against immigration xenophobic. That has nothing to do with most of what is being said.

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Won't find out till next June. But if labour vote in a certain leader I think he may.
After all the labour party said they want to stay in so no vote....They lost :)

So which labour leader would that be? The one who says we should celebrate record immigration levels?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-says-should-celebrate-6331301

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Err yes we do, we have a stricter immigration policy than Australia - there is no skills system for example.

The key difference is that as members of the EU we cannot prevent EU residents from moving here. This isn't an immigration policy issue. If you discount the EU effect our immigration policy is very restrictive and there are often sob stories in the media about people whose wife isn't allowed to move here to be with them etc.

This is why most of the immigration into the UK is from the EU - everyone else finds it very hard to legally immigrate to the UK. A British plumber for example could move to Australia if he has the right skills. An Australian plumber would find it very difficult if not impossible to do the reverse without some other circumstances ie family.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

Thats another myth that most of our immigrants come from within the EU, most of the migrants born outside of the UK infact come from outside of the EU, twice as many infact:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-foreign-born-population-passes-6318129

What a ridiculous comment. Suppression of wages and schools/hospitals/services stretched to breaking point. Yeah really good...:rolleyes:

The only people who think this is good is the bosses who can hire people at min wage in the thousands.

The people who really want this are landlords who let and sublet properties in ever tinier cramped accommodation squeezing more and more people in smaller and smaller places raking in huge amounts. Its a booming industry.

I think we have a duty of care to offer legitimate asylum seekers a chance to settle here should they choose to.

No-one is suggesting otherwise, not even the government.

neither are benefit cheats, or tax dodgers, and many other British (non immigrant legal or not) people who flaunt the law and make the life for the rest of us miserable and costing us money.

Unfortunately there are the same guardian reading lefties who support mass immigration who will argue they have the right to sit on their backsides and claim benefits for the rest of their lives as any thread on benefits claimants here will demonstrate.

There's hundreds of thousands of Brits in Spain, we've got a bit of a cheek moaning about immigration really. Especially by the way some Brits behave themselves.

Not really the same, they're not unskilled migrants flooding into calais and their spending money ends up in the local economy and most are retired so won't spend years being put up in accommodation fed and watered at taxpayers expense waiting for asylum applications to be processed. Because they're retirement age they're not likely to fill the country with their offspring either so overall are generally welcomed by the locals. Its only ever a stable or declining population.
 
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At a meeting on Friday in York, Yorkshire, native British leaders weighed a handful of proposals about the future of the UK’s large, illegal mainland European Saxon, Norman and Viking population. After a long debate, they decided to extend a road to citizenship for those without criminal records or contagious diseases.

“We will give Saxons, Normans and Vikings the option to apply for Native Citizenship,” explained John Seas of the British Native Council. “To obtain legal status, each applicant must write a heartfelt apology for their ancestors’ crimes, pay an application fee of £5,000, and, if currently on any ancestral Native land, they must relinquish that land to the British Native Council or pay the market price, which we decide."

“Any illegal Saxon, Norman or Viking who has a criminal record of any sort, minus traffic and parking tickets, will be deported back to their native land. Anybody with contagious diseases like HIV, smallpox, herpes, etc, will not qualify and will also be deported.”

Saxon, Norman and Viking colonization of the British Isles began in the 4th century and continued into the 11th century, when arrivals from France (then Frankia), Norway and Denmark first established settlements on land that had been occupied by native peoples.

Despite the large number of Saxons, Normans and Vikings residing in the United Kingdom, historical scholars mostly agree that indigenous lands were taken illegally through war, genocide and forced displacement.

Despite the council’s decision, a native group called UKIP lambasted the move, claiming amnesty will only serve to reward lawbreakers.
“They all need to be deported back to mainland Europe,” Fred Long from UKIP said. “They came here illegally and took a giant **** on our land. They took our jobs, overstreched our healthcare system and stole everything we have because they were too lazy to improve and develop their own countries.”

Scholars have pointed out the schemes folly though, in that it would only leave around 60,000 residents in Britain, and would cripple the nations finances.
 
TBH the only sensible way to fix this mess is to address the reasons why people are emigrating here. They're coming here from former states in the Eastern block because their standard of living at home is a couple of generations behind ours. Address that, they'll stop coming and we'll have a generally more prosperous Europe. We shouldn't have accepted all of these states in to the EU unless we were prepared to invest heavily in modernising them.

Leaving the EU to reduce immigration is akin to cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

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You can't say that!! The liberals will have a heart attack... :rolleyes:

I feel this thread is taking a detour imminently.

If it does, they aren't liberals.

Free speech is a Liberal thing. Restrictions on free speech are an authoritarian thing.
 
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At a meeting on Friday in York, Yorkshire, native British leaders weighed a handful of proposals about the future of the UK’s large, illegal mainland European Saxon, Norman and Viking population. After a long debate, they decided to extend a road to citizenship for those without criminal records or contagious diseases.

“We will give Saxons, Normans and Vikings the option to apply for Native Citizenship,” explained John Seas of the British Native Council. “To obtain legal status, each applicant must write a heartfelt apology for their ancestors’ crimes, pay an application fee of £5,000, and, if currently on any ancestral Native land, they must relinquish that land to the British Native Council or pay the market price, which we decide."

“Any illegal Saxon, Norman or Viking who has a criminal record of any sort, minus traffic and parking tickets, will be deported back to their native land. Anybody with contagious diseases like HIV, smallpox, herpes, etc, will not qualify and will also be deported.”

Saxon, Norman and Viking colonization of the British Isles began in the 4th century and continued into the 11th century, when arrivals from France (then Frankia), Norway and Denmark first established settlements on land that had been occupied by native peoples.

Despite the large number of Saxons, Normans and Vikings residing in the United Kingdom, historical scholars mostly agree that indigenous lands were taken illegally through war, genocide and forced displacement.

Despite the council’s decision, a native group called UKIP lambasted the move, claiming amnesty will only serve to reward lawbreakers.
“They all need to be deported back to mainland Europe,” Fred Long from UKIP said. “They came here illegally and took a giant **** on our land. They took our jobs, overstreched our healthcare system and stole everything we have because they were too lazy to improve and develop their own countries.”

Scholars have pointed out the schemes folly though, in that it would only leave around 60,000 residents in Britain, and would cripple the nations finances.

What a mature boy you are.

You are one self-righteous boy ,that's like most guardian readers to be fair .

You'll quote one figure from a national rag and dismiss another as knuckle dragging , you cant understand why professional people cops,doctors , plumbers,teachers have different views to yours .
 
Not even going to read the thread but I bet people who think these figures are too much have been called racist, bigoted, xenophobic etc etc etc already.
 
Thats another myth that most of our immigrants come from within the EU, most of the migrants born outside of the UK infact come from outside of the EU, twice as many infact:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-foreign-born-population-passes-6318129

Foreign population does not tell us what current immigration patterns are like. Remember, many of the foreign born population moved here perhaps half a century ago!

All that is relevant here and now is current migration, of which a significant amount of non-EU arrivals are here as students (Hence the large numbers of Chinese arrivals). These typically go home at the end of the course.
 
With current build numbers, and build numbers in every year for the last decade (and more), we've been building too few houses for the number of people we have/we've been under-building and the problem has been getting worse and worse... and you're saying a net immigration number of ~300 000/year has a negligible impact? Are you on crack?

The immigration debate does have an amazing ability to polarise people. If someone suggests migrants are responsible for the housing crisis, someone will inevitably put up a post saying that they aren't.

The truth is, we'd have a housing crisis without a 300k/year increase in population size from migration. With those extra 300k people, the crisis is that bit worse. That doesn't mean those people shouldn't be coming here. What it does mean is the government should stop mucking about with 'Help to Buy' and get on with building more homes.

Unfortunately that won't happen with a Tory (or New Labour) government as their interests are firmly in shoring up property prices and ensuring private rents continue to rise.
 
With current build numbers, and build numbers in every year for the last decade (and more), we've been building too few houses for the number of people we have/we've been under-building and the problem has been getting worse and worse... and you're saying a net immigration number of ~300 000/year has a negligible impact? Are you on crack?

I don't do drugs :confused:

Anyway. This is just one of many items on the agenda of immigration. Fine I accept it may not be the strongest mitigation, but at the same time I don't think it is enough to throw the baby out with the bath water about. Still we're starting to build a lot more housing - it's a great business to be in at the moment. :) Even if this is a negative, there are so many more advantages of multi skilled workers from the EU. One thing I love about my office is that there are so many people from around the EU, and it certainly makes work a much more productive and interesting place, as we each bring our own skills to the table, admittedly our own foibles too, but ultimately it's positive. And well, they all contribute back to society.

In a way it's good that so may Brits are leaving, it gives more opportunities for us Europeans to develop in such a great country as the UK.
 
In a way it's good that so may Brits are leaving, it gives more opportunities for us Europeans to develop in such a great country as the UK.

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deliberately ignoring me by mentioning me in your previous post? strange...

I did it for a good 4ish posts from you, you kept talking without any replies saying progressively more ridiculous things. I could see you needing the attention :D
 
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In a way it's good that so may Brits are leaving, it gives more opportunities for us Europeans to develop in such a great country as the UK.

Perhaps people fear that this will become the crap hole country that so many others seem to be leaving?
 
I find it ironic, a century ago the British were colonising left right and centre. Now the reverse is happening!!

When the British left India in 1947, the Indians thought oooh no you can't leave....were coming with you!!! (My parents are Indian)
 
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