The labour Leader thread...
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Unions are pointless in this day and age.
The Government take no notice of them, so all they actually do is to hold the public to ransom on things they want, which they know they will never get.
And yet, they call themselves democratic.
The Government take no notice of them, so all they actually do is to hold the public to ransom on things they want, which they know they will never get.
And yet, they call themselves democratic.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/29/tony-blair-labour-leadership-jeremy-corbyn
Jeremy Corbyn’s politics are fantasy – just like Alice in Wonderland says Blair.
Running scared Tony?
To be fair much as Blair is a despicable human being, that article is 100% accurate.
He literally has hit the nail of the head with it.
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Absolutely. Most forum members are young(numerous threads which have asked the same question over the years) and therefore have limited life experience. Some are still at school, college or Uni.
Which other particular point do you disagree with?
It is, but it's still correct.
Sounds like the basis of most politics to me...
That it may be. I think the Blair school of thinking is that you need to listen to whoever shouts the loudest, court businesses and make sure you have the press on-side so you can get elected, and then do some things that are more lined up with your principles. This is the angle that people who aren't Corbyn are working.
It's definitely going to be interesting to see how far someone who effectively wants to tell everyone that their own perception of things is wrong can go. It's got a lot of the press worked up massively for some reason, I can't think the usual suspects would be in favour of a Labour PM (other than the Guardian which seems to be having an identity crisis and in response is doubling-down on the fence sitting position) so I'm not sure why they are obsessed with the electability of a Corbyn-led Labour.
There can be a middle ground between extremes. Of course there are plenty of people who support either one of those approaches as well so I don't think it's a case of "no ones right but me"
Caged, the guardians position makes sense because its the Islington lots paper. Left wing and morale crusader but sees the need for power to achieve results and isn't adverse to a bit of money. They are quite literally stuck in the middle.
I think they would have gone supporting cooper loudly if corbyn wasnt about.
There is no requirement whatsoever to be in a union to either represent another employee, not to be represented.
I have also represented employees, and I didn't charge them ; )
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Tell that to the Greeks, they managed to secure a massive hand out, sorry, loan from the EU and declared the entire week as a Bank Holiday off to celebrate.
When you owe £10 000 to a bank, bank owns you. When you own £10 000 000 000 to a bank, you own the bank.
Simple as that...
Get big enough loan and bank can't take the loss anymore -> it's not your problem anymore, but the problem of whole financial system.
Do you offer the other benefits that being part of a union can offer?
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That unions have never been more needed? That seems to fly in the face of the working conditions that caused unions to be created in the first place? I suppose we could completely ignore history instead...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/29/tony-blair-labour-leadership-jeremy-corbyn
Jeremy Corbyn’s politics are fantasy – just like Alice in Wonderland says Blair.
Running scared Tony?
Of course not, he's just telling how it is.