The EU Migrant Crisis

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Another issue that has contributed to this problem is that France is weak and apathetic at the best of times and is too left at the moment so will never turn anyone away. While Greece can't even run its own country let alone it's borders. So there is nothing stopping them from entering Europe to begin with. We should just say it's there problem and let them deal with it but because of the eu we don't actually run our own country or borders anymore so we are at the mercy of the beuracrats in the eu. Coupled with what I was saying earlier with why we have so many migrants ie improved global communications and mass transport. If think it's only going to get worse until we get a party like ukip in power who leaves the eu and blocks the borders.
 
scorza said:
Where are we going to build this new city the size of Cardiff to accomodate all these migrants? We need to build one such city every year. How do we go about funding and delivering it?
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Build the cities in mid Wales. Not much there and there's lots of raw material laying around. I bet the refugees have the skills required to build new homes.
 
Freakbro said:
I disagree
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You're welcome to your opinion. If you want your children to be able to hold an opinion in the future, I would strongly urge you to rethink your attitudes towards large numbers of Muslims entering our country.

Well, that shoots down Scorza's argument that Canada, NZ, Oz would take us in a time of need since they are not a neighbouring country :rolleyes:
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We have a familial relationship with those nations, just as most Muslim nations have a familial relationship. So its natural that those countries would take us in. Britain has no familial ties to Africa or Asia.

I could list many, but shall we start with the 1951 UN Refugee Convention?
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Please site the relevant portion of that convention. I think you'll find nowhere in that convention makes us responsible for Syrian refugees.
 
Tunney said:
Build the cities in mid Wales. Not much there and there's lots of raw material laying around. I bet the refugees have the skills required to build new homes.
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/looks at poster's location. Ah makes sense now...

I doubt the migrants are all that familiar with British Building Standards either.
 
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Thompson_NCL said:
Please site the relevant portion of that convention. I think you'll find nowhere in that convention makes us responsible for Syrian refugees.
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I not sure 'Syrian refugees' are any different to 'refugees'?

http://www.unhcr.org/3b66c2aa10.html

Details who is a refugee, their rights and the legal obligations of states [Who signed up to this]... knock yourself out.
 
Shampoo said:
Destroy Wales just so we can host endless unwanted dregs? Amazing. Who are you people and why do you hate Britain so much as to want to inflict this on us?

WHY?
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Can you explain why you think normal civilians (men women and children), fleeing a war zone, are dregs?
 
Shampoo said:
Yes. They all adhere to this dangerous death cult called Islam.
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*sigh* that's like equating all Christians to the Westboro Baptist Church....so a nice sweeping generalisation you have there going on, completely ignoring all the millions of muslims who live peacefully side by side with every other religious and non-religous groups within societies.


Can you provide any real benefits that lumping these people into our society would genuinely bring? Will they culturally enrich us and enhance ANY community they get put in?
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We're not bringing these people in to benefit our country, we are doing it to help desperate and displaced civilians who have seen their country turn into a war zone and are fleeing for their, and their familes, lives.
 
Freakbro said:
I not sure 'Syrian refugees' are any different to 'refugees'?

http://www.unhcr.org/3b66c2aa10.html

Details who is a refugee, their rights and the legal obligations of states [Who signed up to this]... knock yourself out.
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You're the one claiming to have evidence to support your argument, please cite the specific section which supports your argument that we have a responsibility to Syrian refugees not currently within our border.

I think you'll find the convention in question does not obligate us to receive them. It obligates the nations they are currently in to deal with them according to the convention. It also obligates asylum seekers to seek refuge in the first safe country, which will NOT be the UK.

If you can show me otherwise, fair enough.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
You're the one claiming to have evidence to support your argument, please cite the specific section which supports your argument that we have a responsibility to Syrian refugees not currently within our border.

I think you'll find the convention in question does not obligate us to receive them. It obligates the nations they are currently in to deal with them according to the convention. It also obligates asylum seekers to seek refuge in the first safe country, which will NOT be the UK.

If you can show me otherwise, fair enough.
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Are you're trying to argue a specific point that since they not within our borders yet we have no responsibility to them?

Well, I can see our shared responsibility within Europe can come into this - also, I'm not sure there is any requirement for them to seek refuge in the first safe country? I think this article answers that point

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/sep/21/claim-asylum-uk-legal-position
 
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