The EU Migrant Crisis

Status
Not open for further replies.
It'd be quite nice to have a bunch of people willing to stand up to our government rioting in the streets when their benefits get cut etc

I protested against cuts in education. Some people do stand up, not sit behind keyboards bemoaning the lack of activity.

but I don't ever see them identifying as british and being all multicultural.

Why would refugees need to 'identify' as British? Part of a persons identity is far more than where they are living.

asains from pakistan etc have been here for generations and you still have your all asian areas where only about 10% of the population seems to be other races and they all speak their own language rather than english unless they are speaking to an english person.

What? Source for these claims?

Sure, there are area's with high ethnic minorities, however there are areas where the opposite is true.

Why if you come from a home/culture with a different language would you not speak in your native/first language when talking to people who share that?

anyone who thinks these imigrants are going to adopt the british way of life and spread out across the country is smoking crack, it will be a few councils that have them and they won't be given the resources they need since they don't have enough resources for the people they have already living in their cities.

Why is adopting the 'British way of life' (whatever that is) a thing? These people (as any person) should be able to live their life without fear of violence or death over political, racial, religious et cetera reprisals.

at the rate we are going austerity will still be in place in a few generations time

Austerity is self defeating and is political ideology from the current Government.
 
Guess whose coming to Europe this summer?

11921685_900960913290564_6497361444690374118_n.jpg
 
Read the newspapers, these criminal people smuggling gangs don't work for free - I've read articles suggesting it costs $2,000 to get a place on a boat from Libya to Italy. These migrants don't lack money - they lack the right to travel to Europe.

What has that got to do with Syrians fleeing a civil war?
 
It is if you as said refugee must not travel with documents identifying who you are.

You cant take a passport with you.

Travelling, with wealth is not the problem. The problem is border crossing and claiming help.

you want a source go watch some interviews with refugees in calais or wherever, even bbc reporters have been told about the thousands of dollars people spend to get that far.

you think some wealthy syrian can just board a jet and head to the uk ignoring borders? are you on crack?

Yes, people are spending 'thousands' to get their, they are selling up their entire lives, using all their savings because if they stay there is a high chance of them being killed. Like seriously, are you being obtuse on purpose? or do you know nothing of human trafficking?
 
Why does a refugee have to be poor?

Bombs don't care about your wealth.

ref·u·gee
ˌrefyo͝oˈjē/
noun
noun: refugee; plural noun: refugees

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
when they update the definition to include economic reasons?

you do realise the whole of the middle east isn't at war right? you realise boko haram are only in a tiny part of africa?

most of these countries are the same as they were 5 years ago or even before that why leave now???? because the eu is seen as weak and people want an easy life
 
when they update the definition to include economic reasons?

You've totally missed the point, I'll try and clarify:

1: Does one's wealth matter if you're fleeing a tyranical government that's torturing it's citizens or a fundementalist Islamic Army?

I'll clarify my other point as well:-

2: Do the bombs miss your house if you're wealthy? Do the bombs only hit poor peoples houses?

I'll go further:-

3: When ISIS come to your town, do they only persecute the poor?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Do one's wealth matter if you're fleeing a tyranical government that's torturing it's citizens or a fundementalist Islamic Army?
Does where you end up matter as long as it's safe?

seeing "refugees" refusing food and water tells me they aren't exactly refugees in need

let us out/on a train or we hunger strike.... lol wut
 
Does where you end up matter as long as it's safe?

I don't think it's enough just to be safe. Prison is safe. You've got to have a life worth living after you've found safety. I entirely understand why some don't want to remain in turkey (and by extension, why they don't want to go to another ME/Islamic country).

seeing "refugees" refusing food and water tells me they aren't exactly refugees in need

I suspect they fear being trapped in a situation that will result in misery - so they're pushing back. It's actually pretty clever of them as it draws the media - no such thing as bad publicity etc.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You've totally missed the point, I'll try and clarify:

1: Does one's wealth matter if you're fleeing a tyranical government that's torturing it's citizens or a fundementalist Islamic Army?

I'll clarify my other point as well:-

2: Do the bombs miss your house if you're wealthy? Do the bombs only hit poor peoples houses?

I'll go further:-

3: When ISIS come to your town, do they only persecute the poor?

Is Turkey a tyrannical govt torturing its citizens?

Do bombs fall in Turkey?

Is ISIS in Turkey?

Am I on ignore, because you've ignored some questions twice now that I wanted you to answer :p
 
Is Turkey a tyrannical govt torturing its citizens?

It has quite a wide range of human rights issues.

Do bombs fall in Turkey?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-shots-fired-us-consulate-police-station-bomb
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33593615

The security situation in Turkey isn't great atm.

If Turkey isn't safe for British nationals, why is it safe for refugees?

Is ISIS in Turkey?

Yes.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/593466/Turkey-arrests-Isis-bombing-Syria

Am I on ignore, because you've ignored some questions twice now that I wanted you to answer :p

I'm not ignoring them - I just didn't deem them worth answering (I've forgotten what they were anyway) = post them again and I'll have a look.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
The problem is we have to distinct groups of people, refugees and economic migrants and some people in this thread seem to be willfully ignoring that.
 
It has quite a wide range of human rights issues.

So does everywhere, I've already given you the list of things the UK is "guilty" of. There are two kinds of human rights campaigners - the cynics who know they're onto a cash cow e.g. Phil Shiner using taxpayer money to sue the taxpayer, then there are the ninnies who want the whole world to be sugary, fairy unicorns. The key thing is to ignore both these groups of people.
 
So does everywhere, I've already given you the list of things the UK is "guilty" of.

If you want to state that the human rights situation in Syria and Turkey is analogous to the human rights situation in the UK then go right ahead.

And people have the cheek to brand me a dreamer................

There are two kinds of human rights campaigners - the cynics who know they're onto a cash cow e.g. Phil Shiner using taxpayer money to sue the taxpayer, then there are the ninnies who want the whole world to be sugary, fairy unicorns. The key thing is to ignore both these groups of people.

Ah, you're one of those people? Is Gove on your xmas card list?
 
The boys father left Syria because he needed new teeth:

How cucked can you be?


Disgusting.. :mad: Looks like his kids didn't even have life vests either, MONUMENTAL parenting fail. Answer to this is to close the borders, then the irresponsible morons will stop trying these daft stunts. If they know there's absolutely NO chance of getting through it means the lives of other children will be saved.


Also, petition calling for Cameron to stamp out immigration to the UK, great cause but poorly worded unfortunately. Worth signing simply to spite the SJW and liberal brigade however.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477
 
It has quite a wide range of human rights issues.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-shots-fired-us-consulate-police-station-bomb
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33593615

The security situation in Turkey isn't great there atm.

If Turkey isn't safe for British nationals, why is it safe for refugees?



Yes.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/593466/Turkey-arrests-Isis-bombing-Syria



I'm not ignoring them - I just didn't deem them worth answering (I've forgotten what they were anyway) = post them again and I'll have a look.

That's funny because Turkey is apparently still safe for the British to visit on holiday. It's only advised that you don't stay near the Syria Border.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom