The EU Migrant Crisis

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Rosbif said:
We can repeal the bedroom tax and refugees can take the spare room(s)
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Are you ****ing serious? :mad:

A stranger in your home who you don't know at all. :confused:

Do you have any children by any chance? Would you let anyone in to your house to sleep overnight with your child or wife in the next room?

You cannot teach stupid its a fact. :rolleyes:
 
Skunkworks said:
I'm calling troll.
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This is the internet - who really knows?

I say I'm a 37 yr old, degree student, married with 3 children.

But I could equally be a fanatic EDL supporter, living in Luton, trolling the internet to stir up anger against liberal lefties.
 
dlite said:
Has anyone who is opposed of letting any people in spent even a second thinking about the life for Syrian/Iraqi refugees in these refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey?

Close to four million people, housed in tents, indefinitely (no change in sight, no prospective of ending the war) and only thing to do is to wait for a daily food ration package coming from UN? UNICEF tries to arrange some schools for kids between age 5-12 or so I think, but what prospects of life do they have on those camps?

Is it ok to have close to 4 million people stored like cattle in camps, just maintained with the logistically optimal distribution of nutritiously neutral and efficient food provided with minimal budget of UNHCR?

Personally I'd be happy and grateful for reaching the camp. But after spending there a month or two, I would for sure start of thinking methods to make my life better. And if you are on a camp with over 1 million people in Lebanon that has 4.5million people, what chances do you have of "integrating" to local society? -> Only option is to go somewhere else. And not surprisingly they want to head where they think they have the best shot.

I'm not saying that we should have totally open-doors policy. But I don't find it so unfair that they want more from their life than indefinite storage on camps with no prospects to build their lives.

Compare "immigration criticals" of Europe with Donald Trump:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/donald-trump-racist-claims-mexico-rapes
rapists, criminals and drug dealers, I feel certain echo bouncing here...
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A German lecturing us on camps? How deliciously ironic.
 
amigafan2003 said:
This is the internet - who really knows?

I say I'm a 37 yr old, degree student, married with 3 children.

But I could equally be a fanatic EDL supporter, living in Luton, trolling the internet to stir up anger against liberal lefties.
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Spoon pics for proof.

We need to start rolling like the bodybuilding misc.

Spoon pics of you with your refugee or fraudin' :D

billysielu said:
remember to get him a scratching post and litter tray...
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lmao
 
Terminal_Boy said:
A German lecturing us on camps? How deliciously ironic.
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That's a bit below the belt. Modern day Germans have nothing to do with the Nazis.

dlite said:
Has anyone who is opposed of letting any people in spent even a second thinking about the life for Syrian/Iraqi refugees in these refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey?

Close to four million people, housed in tents, indefinitely (no change in sight, no prospective of ending the war) and only thing to do is to wait for a daily food ration package coming from UN? UNICEF tries to arrange some schools for kids between age 5-12 or so I think, but what prospects of life do they have on those camps?

Is it ok to have close to 4 million people stored like cattle in camps, just maintained with the logistically optimal distribution of nutritiously neutral and efficient food provided with minimal budget of UNHCR?

Personally I'd be happy and grateful for reaching the camp. But after spending there a month or two, I would for sure start of thinking methods to make my life better. And if you are on a camp with over 1 million people in Lebanon that has 4.5million people, what chances do you have of "integrating" to local society? -> Only option is to go somewhere else. And not surprisingly they want to head where they think they have the best shot.

I'm not saying that we should have totally open-doors policy. But I don't find it so unfair that they want more from their life than indefinite storage on camps with no prospects to build their lives.

Compare "immigration criticals" of Europe with Donald Trump:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/donald-trump-racist-claims-mexico-rapes
rapists, criminals and drug dealers, I feel certain echo bouncing here...
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Just so long as the ones who end up causing trouble can be immediately deported. This shouldn't be a one-way street.

If they start dealing drugs, grooming girls, rioting, stealing... anything like in that video in Sweden... then they go straight back, to whatever hell they came from - since it clearly wasn't bad enough to make them grateful to be here.

You guarantee we can kick them out as needed, and we'll take some of them on trust.

We should not be a soft touch.

Trouble is, to many liberals that would be a "red line", and violate their "human rights", and they'd babble on about rehabilitation, tolerance, etc.
 
amigafan2003 said:
If I was a refugee I wouldn't want to settle in Slovenia or Slovakia (but then I wouldn't particulary want to settle in France either!).

Slovakia and Slovenia have both imposed the "strict" Schengen border ruleset, so that would explain why refugees aren't heading there.
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Your assumption is incorrect. The first reason why migrants don't bother with Slovakia is that it is much poorer than UK, GER etc. and therefore there are no insane handouts waiting for them. Another reason is that for many of us (I happen to be a Slovakian, too) their culture is in absolute contrast with our culture and way of life. We don't see any point having our country saturated with the communities not willing to integrate (by this I mean respecting our law, culture and freedom). And last but not least - although sounding like an oxymoron, Slovakia has a large gypsy minority that many Slovaks see as a big problem, mainly because it is anti-social, messy and largely on the dole. So why would we want to have more "different" people coming to abuse the system, cause trouble or both?

As for Schengen, what's the point having it if we open the gates for uncontrollable mass migration? How do we manage to check all of those people potentially carrying various diseases or rule out they are not a security threat to us? We just don't and that's why the whole thing is wrong. The EU socialist establishment has completely failed (as socialists always do) to make sure our borders are safe and secure.

To sum it up - if Germany, Austria, Sweden etc. want tens of thousands immigrants coming to their countries it is their business. But do not force other countries to fulfill your stupid, out of thin air created quotas on immigrants thinking you have come up with some genius idea to sort out your mess.
 
FoxEye said:
That's a bit below the belt. Modern day Germans have nothing to do with the Nazis.



Just so long as the ones who end up causing trouble can be immediately deported. This shouldn't be a one-way street.

If they start dealing drugs, grooming girls, rioting, stealing... anything like in that video in Sweden... then they go straight back, to whatever hell they came from - since it clearly wasn't bad enough to make them grateful to be here.

You guarantee we can kick them out as needed, and we'll take some of them on trust.

We should not be a soft touch.

Trouble is, to many liberals that would be a "red line", and violate their "human rights", and they'd babble on about rehabilitation, tolerance, etc.
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I think Australia is like that? correct me if I'm wrong but if you're caught committing crime in first few years you're out. Might be aus... or somewhere else but it was something like that.
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
I think Australia is like that? correct me if I'm wrong but if you're caught committing crime in first few years you're out. Might be aus... or somewhere else but it was something like that.
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The Ozzies are smarter than they look ;) We should copy their approach.
 
maltrabob said:
To sum it up - if Germany, Austria, Sweden etc. want tens of thousands immigrants coming to their countries it is their business.
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But is it though? Do they get citizenship once they are there for a certain period? If they do then it is also our business because they can then easily move to the UK
 
FoxEye said:
The Ozzies are smarter than they look ;) We should copy their approach.
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I think it's a fairly reasonable approach.

Drizmod said:
But is it though? Do they get citizenship once they are there for a certain period? If they do then it is also our business because they can then easily move to the UK
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Germany is going to pull the whole of Europe into this one, and that is why I now agree the UK should leave the EU. Enough is enough. It won't just affect Germany. Not by a long shot.
 
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