Microsoft is downloading Windows 10 to your machine 'just in case'

Not quite sure which side I come down on - on the one hand thats what you get for leaving/having automatic updates enabled on the other hand its a bit of a dick move considering the number of people these days on relatively storage space limited tablets, etc.

MS needs a fundamental shake up to get back in touch with their customers IMO - too much of Windows 10 is trying to move all users towards the same usage model in a 1 size fits all kind of approach which time and time again has been proved isn't a good direction.
 
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Microsoft automatically downloads Windows Updates onto PCs that have enabled automatic downloading of Windows Updates...

HOW DARE THEY!

Rroff said:
too much of Windows 10 is trying to move all users towards the same usage model in a 1 size fits all kind of approach which time and time again has been proved isn't a good direction.
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Yeah, that other company that has done that across all their devices has totally flopped, hasn't it. What was their name again...? It was something a bit odd, some guy used to wear a Polo neck? Oh thats right, Apple. What ever happened to them?
 
You mean that predominant desktop OS that is used ... oh wait that isn't Apple...

Windows 10 for all its faults already has half the desktop market penetration of OS X.

EDIT: Even the Windows tablet user numbers are making a fast march on iOS devices despite Apple being a fashionable brand to own.
 
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It was more a point regarding your 'time and time again' comment. I can think of only one other computer device vendor who has adopted a standardised UI aproach (Apple), and they have done fine. Where are all these other 'times'?

Also lol at you turning a thread about automatic downloads into yet another UI Rroff Rant in 2 posts!
 
No one remembers the failures :P the start menu drama alone shows how polarising it can be. Apple are fortunate in a way that their one size model fits a not insignificant percentage of the mainstream market (probably not entirely by accident) but it does also limit their broader appeal. If Windows goes too far down the one size fits all route in the desktop space (embedded systems, etc. it tends to work more) it will eventually lead to fragmentation and fragmentation tends to lead to decline.
 
But wasn't the main complaint about Windows 8 that it did things differently? Now with 10 it does everything the same, but that's also wrong?

Can we just draw a line and agree that you will never approve of a Windows UI unless it's beet designed specifically for you? Or by you, actually.
 
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But wasn't the main complaint about Windows 8 that it did things differently? Now with 10 it does everything the same, but that's also wrong?

Can we just draw a line and agree that you will never approve of a Windows UI unless it's beet designed specifically for you? Or by you, actually.
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I can't even get my head around that comparison - not sure how the complaints that Windows 8 does things differently to 7/previous OSes is comparable to Windows 10 moving towards a model orientated around an idealised vision of how the "model" user should interact with the OS.

I don't think you are quite getting the angle I'm coming from - I'm talking about the model of how users go about tasks on the desktop not the specific UI implementation... in retrospect Windows 7 is pretty horrific for it but it was designed in a different age when the market was very different and quite antiquated for today's market (though it happens to fit my needs).

I'll approve of an OS that "enables" the user as far as is reasonably possible that has simple, unified flexibility at a basic level and allows users to easily adapt to suit whatever model they find most suited - Windows 10 on paper should have been a good step along that road but progressively they seem to be shaping it to cater for a highly idealised vision of how the "model" user should interact with the OS on a day to day basis and while that isn't necessarily a bad thing for a phone or tablet (infact on embedded type platforms its usually a very good thing) its a completely different story for the desktop - MS seems to somewhat be forgetting that in their hurry to integrate all the platforms and in the long run that isn't a good thing.
 
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Nice try but I can see right through the disingenuous use of phraseology. Funny how you always try to twist someone's words to provoke an argument.
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From the man whos first reply in a thread about Windows Update downloads was designed to steer discussion towards the UI... again.
 
Skeeter said:
From the man whos first reply in a thread about Windows Update downloads was designed to steer discussion towards the UI... again.
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Only I'm not just talking about the UI - but the whole way MS envisions the user model - which links into the pushed Windows 10 pre-load in a presumptuous manner.

End of the day though if people leave automatic updates enabled then most likely they either don't care or do somewhat fit the model of that idealised version of the average user.
 
It's a Windows Update. There is no 'pushing' or 'presumption'. It's a free update delivered through Windows Update so obviously it's going to be automatically downloaded!

Accusing it of being forced or presumptuous is just yet again people searching for things to complain about!
 
There is a difference between an important update for the current operating system and an update to a completely new operating system.
 
Historically a new version of Windows has never been considered an "update" to an older version. They've never to my knowledge used that terminology before. It's a different model to that of updating Chrome, etc.

A service pack is an update... a new version of Windows has always been called an "upgrade" (when possible).
 
I quite like windows 10 myself, but I know some people prefer to wear a tinfoil hat with all of this privacy lark, hence not upgrading to Windows 10.

Personally I would upgrade, as I feel Windows 10 is better than 8.1/7. :)
 
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Historically a new version of Windows has never been considered an "update" to an older version. They've never to my knowledge used that terminology before. It's a different model to that of updating Chrome, etc.

A service pack is an update... a new version of Windows has always been called an "upgrade" (when possible).
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Hence the shift in how Windows is delivered. From here on all updated with Windows will be just that, 'updates'.

"Historically" Windows was delivered on a stack of Floppy Disks and took a day to install, should we all demand they return to that model too?

You still have to manually confirm you wish to install it. Its yet again a total non issue that people are just going crazy over because its the cool thing to do.
 
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