Why is the overall tone of GD so right wing?

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People on the right are average, boring and predictable. They represent the majority of society. It all stems from upbringing and circumstances. If you farther had a chip on his shoulder for poor people claiming benefits you probably do too. Its easy to hate people that are weaker than you and the fact that you moan about them makes you feel better about yourself.

If you think about its easier to go through life on the right. I mean why waste thoughts dreaming up a fairyland Marxist utopia when you can plod along with what you have?
 
FoxEye said:
Does being anti-Islam automatically make you xenophobic?
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in literal terms from your post, no.

However you can be anti-islam and still respect it as its own religion. I don't support it but realise that millions of people do and they probably don't want to hear one blokes opinion on what they should or shouldnt be doing.

It becomes xenophobic when people post repeatedly about how they avoid people purely based on the fact that they are a different religion, treat them differently and indeed want the entire country to treat them a different way because they deem it 'right'.
 
MonkeyMan said:
People like you that pull the racist card on every issue do a real disservice to what true racism is.

Anyway... I always thought centre right was the majority view in this country. Perhaps that comes from growing uo in a relatively wealthy part of the country but most people seem to get over the far left views in their student days.
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What about the people that are neither left, right or left-centre-right... They do exist.
 
JohnnyG said:
If you're not careful someone's going to ask you to back up that statement about the amount of daily DM links, then you're in trouble.
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A single link is one too many. The fact that DM links are by far the most prolific posted in here from MSM outlets is telling.

That's my point. Or maybe it was just a little too subtle for you?
 
kitch9 said:
You could say similar things for most countries. A lot can happen in a few thousand years.
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Of course you can, and that's my point. The rhetoric we here about 'English Christian values' from people who don't appreciate that their history, and ours as a United Kingdom are a story of evolution and adaption.

Once you accept that you stop seeing immigration as a threat, and more as an opportunity. The medical profession we recognise today has its roots in Islamic medicine, the law we obey is French in origin. In Norman England most upwardly mobile people spoke at least 2 languages. When did we become as arrogant as to assume that everyone one in the world should speak English?

I work in a field where I deal with people from a whole host of countries on an hourly basis, all with varying degrees of competence in English. You'd be surprised perhaps but the people I often have most difficulty communicating with are drunken Brits.

I do genuinely see us as one people. We're only separated by artificial barriers. We have the capacity to feed, house, educate and treat the worlds population if we chose to. we just chose not to. We want weapons that will kill the world many times over, we applaud greed at the expense of others ability to survive. We prioritise that second car over making sure someone else has enough food. And when we'rechallenged on it we say 'but we need to look after our own first'

I don't care if they're well off Chinese graduates or a strawberry picker from Lithuania. They're all people.
 
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spoffle said:
:confused: what the hell does that even mean?

I'm asking you a question, can't you answer a simple question?
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There's streets full of families in my town who can't speak English in answer to your question.

Either that or they won't. I couldn't get in at the doctors because I missed my appointment because I was at the back of aa large queue of people who couldn't speak English and were kicking off with the receptionist.

It's a real problem.
 
phonemonkey said:
Of course you can, and that's my point. The rhetoric we here about 'English Christian values' from people who don't appreciate that their history, and ours as a United Kingdom are a story of evolution and adaption.

Once you accept that you stop seeing immigration as a threat, and more as an opportunity. The medical profession we recognise today has its roots in Islamic medicine, the law we obey is French in origin. In Norman England most upwardly mobile people spoke at least 2 languages. When did we become as arrogant as to assume that everyone one in the world should speak English?

I work in a field where I deal with people from a whole host of countries on an hourly basis, all with varying degrees of competence in English. You'd be surprised perhaps but the people I often have most difficulty communicating with are drunken Brits.
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Which is why I think limiting the vast majority of immigration to one continent and discrimination against everyone else is madness.
 
Probably all sick of the myriad of people who claim to care so vehemently about everything whilst doing absolutely nothing to help but click like on a Guardian link on Facebook..
 
Jono8 said:
Probably all sick of the myriad of people who claim to care so vehemently about everything whilst doing absolutely nothing to help but click like on a Guardian link on Facebook..
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The one person who did do something was immediately met with demands to prove it.

#notaleftie,jussayin.
 
The Geezer said:
I would say the demographic are those who grew up during the Thatcher era or are offspring of parents who were, it was the time where you could get wealthy with little effort if you were in the right sectors. The same era where the haves continued to climb the ladder whilst pulling it up behind them.

That mentality would have been instilled into a lot of folk from that period which is now manifesting itself as they are now employed.

The nation has become more conservative post the last financial crisis as they want to protect what is theirs and bugger anyone else who even thinks about sharing.
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I was born in '73 and in theory, should be true child of Thatcher. I've also seen the social benefits of a left wing government. You can argue all you like that they brought the last financial crisis upon us but I think greed and capitalism was to blame for that, and it would have happened whichever party was in power. But yes, a lot of people from my generation have followed the Thatcherite belief in yourself before others.

Pawnless Endgame said:
I had a couple of managers attempt the conversion card on me, repeatedly. They put me down due to being a non-believer. Then they assumed that I was a druggy because I clubbing, and that I'm a paedophile because I like Japanese manga. Should have kept it professional and called the police if they were genuinely concerned imo. When it came to promotions, other believers leap-frogged me. Also, the grievance I filed got brushed under the carpet.

At the end of the day, it's how strict (fundamentalist) they are or how liberal they are. I don't have issues with the liberal end because they keep it to themselves for the main part.
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People are entitled to their beliefs but mistreating other people because of them is rather narrow minded and doesn't benefit society as a whole.

MrMoonX said:
Theres also the secret mods forum which is full of race hate etc.

Also posters here are all children of Thatcher and want to get rich quick and damn everyone else, sell your mother kind of attitude
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[monkeydust]Clive, is that just not the plot from the movie "Iron Sky" where have you really been?[/monkeydust]
 
gandhi said:
I've been wondering this for a while now. In theory, this forum should represent a reasonably broad spectrum of the UK population?

I genuinely believe that everyone is entitled to an opinion and are free to follow whichever particular path they chose but there seems to be a propensity on here for a distinctly right of center viewpoint.

Anyone care to enlighten me? I'm drunk and bored, a dangerous combination!
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Considering that most forums seem to be predominantly left-wing, I find it something of a breath of fresh air it bucks the trend. Especially if the Election is anything go by they're the silent majority.

But to answer the quest most people are are well educated with good jobs and a drive to succeed i.e. not your usual lefty whinger.

JohnnyG said:
Seats are irrelevant in this argument as the forum has no boundaries.
The Conservatives had 2 million more votes than their nearest challenger and something like 9 million more than the next, it stands to reason that an open forum would have a majority of 'right wing' supporters.
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You'd think so wouldn't you, but experience says otherwise. The Left are certainly the vocal majority, online at least.
 
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Zethor said:
I've asked this question before and an older member told me the forum possibly had connections to far right groups which probably attracted quite a few members with extreme views, some of whome are still active. Once the ring wing views core was created, it continued to exist even after improvals in moderation, change of ownership etc.
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Tell me, what's the difference between members having links with far-right groups and those who support the violent far-left groups like Unite Against Freedom and the SWP?
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Considering that most forums seem to be predominantly left-wing, I find it something of a breath of fresh air it bucks the trend. Especially if the Election is anything go by they're the silent majority.

But to answer the quest most people are are well educated with good jobs and a drive to succeed i.e. not your usual lefty whinger.
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How do you explain the movie star celebrities both UK and US that are highly paid that support the left?

Eurofighter said:
computers are an antisocial hobby.
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I think to a degree most technology is. As you get so much aggression from antisocial individuals but it depends who's hands it is in.
 
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