Why is the overall tone of GD so right wing?

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MonkeyMan said:
Anyway... I always thought centre right was the majority view in this country. Perhaps that comes from growing up in a relatively wealthy part of the country but most people seem to get over the far left views in their student days.
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Bit stereotypical? I know plenty of people in their adult years who have some quite socialistic views? I also have friends who have swung to the right? Peoples politics tend to be situational but you are suggesting that being a socialist or left wing viewpoint is an idealistic view point borne of immaturity?

V F said:
What about the people that are neither left, right or left-centre-right... They do exist.
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Indeed, I am one of them.

kitch9 said:
There's streets full of families in my town who can't speak English in answer to your question.

Either that or they won't. I couldn't get in at the doctors because I missed my appointment because I was at the back of aa large queue of people who couldn't speak English and were kicking off with the receptionist.

It's a real problem.
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So why didn't you help them instead of muttering at the back of the queue like everybody else? Where I live and work, I quite often meet people for whom English isn't their first language - I get quite a good feeling out of trying to help them out?

phonemonkey said:
Of course you can, and that's my point. The rhetoric we here about 'English Christian values' from people who don't appreciate that their history, and ours as a United Kingdom are a story of evolution and adaption.

Once you accept that you stop seeing immigration as a threat, and more as an opportunity. The medical profession we recognise today has its roots in Islamic medicine, the law we obey is French in origin. In Norman England most upwardly mobile people spoke at least 2 languages. When did we become as arrogant as to assume that everyone one in the world should speak English?

I work in a field where I deal with people from a whole host of countries on an hourly basis, all with varying degrees of competence in English. You'd be surprised perhaps but the people I often have most difficulty communicating with are drunken Brits.

I do genuinely see us as one people. We're only separated by artificial barriers. We have the capacity to feed, house, educate and treat the worlds population if we chose to. we just chose not to. We want weapons that will kill the world many times over, we applaud greed at the expense of others ability to survive. We prioritise that second car over making sure someone else has enough food. And when we're challenged on it we say 'but we need to look after our own first'

I don't care if they're well off Chinese graduates or a strawberry picker from Lithuania. They're all people.
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I very much agree with this post. Everything changes, it's inevitable. And one of the things that's going to change the most over the coming years is how we view our fellow humans. It's all well and good fighting over our parochial, anachronistic views and little bits of soil but as the planet becomes more and more overcrowded it will become untenable. Especially if all the predictions about climate change come to fruition. It's about time people checked up on exactly what it is to be a human being.

This, btw, is not a leftish viewpoint. It's just an unselfish one.

Jono8 said:
Probably all sick of the myriad of people who claim to care so vehemently about everything whilst doing absolutely nothing to help but click like on a Guardian link on Facebook..
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IDK, I don't directly work with disadvantaged people but I do work very hard to support my partner in a low paid job who does. Yes, I could do more but who here couldn't?
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Considering that most forums seem to be predominantly left-wing, I find it something of a breath of fresh air it bucks the trend. Especially if the Election is anything go by they're the silent majority.

But to answer the quest most people are are well educated with good jobs and a drive to succeed i.e. not your usual lefty whinger.



You'd think so wouldn't you, but experience says otherwise. The Left are certainly the vocal majority, online at least.
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I'm not sure this is true. Have you been on mumsnet or pistonheads? Not sure how big their membership is but they both seem to be quite liberal/right in the case of mumsnet and fairly right of center on PH.

(I frequent one, but not the other)

In any case, this neither answers or refutes my OP, at least no without some form of evidence :)

Malevolence said:
Tell me, what's the difference between members having links with far-right groups and those who support the violent far-left groups like Unite Against Freedom and the SWP?
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None whatsoever.

Zethor said:
Actually, education strongly correlates with left wing opinions.

http://ijpor.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/141.abstract
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2778029?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_beliefs_of_academics
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Well, only those who went to polytechnics ;)
 
Right, I'm going to bed now. I have a greenhouse to glaze in the morning.

Conclusions I have drawn;

1) OCUK is a genuinely diverse group of people.

2) It *may* have had slightly questionable (and as of yet, unproved) roots.

3) The vocal minority can appear to outweigh the majority opinion

4) I quite like cheese, red wine (Argentinian Malbec tonight) and Reece's PB cups)
 
kitch9 said:
There's streets full of families in my town who can't speak English in answer to your question.

Either that or they won't. I couldn't get in at the doctors because I missed my appointment because I was at the back of aa large queue of people who couldn't speak English and were kicking off with the receptionist.

It's a real problem.
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I don't understand what exactly your issue is. Why is it a problem if people aren't speaking English?

Also, would you have managed to make your appointment if you were at the back of a large queue of English people kicking off in English?
 
gandhi said:
2) It *may* have had slightly questionable (and as of yet, unproved) roots.
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Not may, it did. There's a lot of information out there about it, google "Spie racist". Spie is the previous owner and founder of Overclockers.

I'm not being arsey, I'm just pointing out that I'm not working on rumours. I've experienced such things with my own eyes when I used to lurk.
 
Fair enough, it's not longer pertinent since Spie hasn't been involved for a few years now anyway.

But there is certainly some people left over from those days that have at least stopped expressing their beliefs. At the time, it took a lot for people to get banned for racist nonsense.
 
spoffle said:
Not may, it did. There's a lot of information out there about it, google "Spie racist". Spie is the previous owner and founder of Overclockers.

I'm not being arsey, I'm just pointing out that I'm not working on rumours. I've experienced such things with my own eyes when I used to lurk.
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yikes... didn't realise it was documented elsewhere on the net - he's even got his own urban dictionary entry :eek:
 
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Malevolence said:
Most likely a load of old arse gravy written by someone who got banned and then threw their toys out of the pram. Anyone can create an Urban Dictionary entry.
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Spie once started a thread called "Why do Pakis smell?" and went on to moan about how "pakis" smell awful.

Arse gravy? Yeah, no.
 
spoffle said:
Fair enough, it's not longer pertinent since Spie hasn't been involved for a few years now anyway.

But there is certainly some people left over from those days that have at least stopped expressing their beliefs. At the time, it took a lot for people to get banned for racist nonsense.
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Yet you continue with the rinse, repeat and spew it all out again.

Tiresome and boring, past is history, move forward and upwards.

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