The EU Migrant Crisis

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Don't get me wrong I am misanthropic person no matter where you come from.

But its not the people its the religion they bring with them. I am fine if they practice their belief in the own time and space.

But don't spout it and want privileges for said belief. :mad:
 
itchy said:
Don't get me wrong I am misanthropic person no matter where you come from.

But its not the people its the religion they bring with them. I am fine if they practice their belief in the own time and space.

But don't spout it and want privileges for said belief. :mad:
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So its religion you are angry about, not immigration?

Do you understand whay and what you are angry at?

Do you understand in general?
 
Boycey0211 said:
Yeah I did watch it....

It'd be that same if we filled the room full of blokes who actually are racists and then presented that as the opinion of all white folk.

Do four muslim opinions account for the entire religion now or am I missing something?
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Did you miss the point of the video? It's trying to point out that muslims don't want to become part of the german culture in some cases. Th fact that a jew cannot even walk outside with his kippah on in areas were he may come across some muslims is a joke.

Putting large numbers of any culture in one area will mean they will always try and create their own little "area" were in some cases outsiders are not welcome.

In simple terms what if say the town you lived all of a sudden turned into a no go zone for white folk and you didn't even feel safe in your own neighbourhood anymore? This has happened to many places within the UK and will happen more and more until muslim's for example learn to accept the laws and culture of the country they seek to claim asylum in.

Also I find it funny you're so pro refugee, but show no compassion for this lady.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28528103&postcount=12
 
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teaboy5 said:
Did you miss the point of the video? It's trying to point out that muslims don't want to become part of the german culture in some cases. Th fact that a jew cannot even walk outside with his kippah on in areas were he may come across some muslims is a joke.

Putting large numbers of any culture in one area will mean they will always try and create their own little "area" were in some cases outsiders are not welcome.

In simple terms what if say the town you lived all of a sudden turned into a no go zone for white folk and you didn't even feel safe in your own neighbourhood anymore? This has happened to many places within the UK and will happen more and more until muslim's for example learn to accept the laws and culture of the country they seek to claim asylum in.
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Yeah but it made that point using a select group of about 6 people :rolleyes:

There are no 'no-go' zones, feeling safe is purely subjective, anyone can feel unsafe in their area regardless of race or religion.

Again, my point is ignored, what if someone collected 6 white supremacists from Britain and filmed them, does this speak for all of us???

What about Brits saying that they don't want muslims around, does that not count as a 'no-go' zone???

Speaking as a relatively right wing christian male this discussion is becomeing more about the religion and less about the fact that people are fleeing war.
 
Boycey0211 said:
So its religion you are angry about, not immigration?

Do you understand whay and what you are angry at?

Do you understand in general?
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I ****ing hate religion with a passion.

Not the debate.

You live in Norfolk mate not being funny but you living the high life.

This will not effect you period. I have said many time in this thread I see it every day. Building and building it ****ing nuts and you just say? "Hey let them all ****ing in"

Some people are mad. :mad:
 
itchy said:
I ****ing hate religion with a passion.

Not the debate.

You live in Norfolk mate not being funny but you living the high life.

This will not effect you period. I have said many time in this thread I see it every day. Building and building it ****ing nuts and you just say. "Hey let them all ****ing in"

Some people are mad. :mad:
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I have explained probably about 10 times now

I AM NOT FROM NORFOLK, I JUST LIVE THERE NOW

Originally I'm from about 50 miles south of liverpool and if you think its living the high life then you'd be mistaken. There are huge amounts of eastern europeans here to the point where I'm surprised to hear someone speaking english in the town center.

If you hate religion, then leave it out of the debate, just think of these people as human beings. IF ww3 started and you had to move, would you want people saying 'oh no, dont let him in, he's one of those christians' or would you rather drown in the meditarranian?
 
Boycey0211 said:
Yeah but it made that point using a select group of about 6 people :rolleyes:

There are no 'no-go' zones, feeling safe is purely subjective, anyone can feel unsafe in their area regardless of race or religion.

Again, my point is ignored, what if someone collected 6 white supremacists from Britain and filmed them, does this speak for all of us???

What about Brits saying that they don't want muslims around, does that not count as a 'no-go' zone???

Speaking as a relatively right wing christian male this discussion is becomeing more about the religion and less about the fact that people are fleeing war.
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Are you a muslim Boycey? It does seem that certain people are displaying an absolute refusal to accept even the /possibility/ that there is a problem.

There are plenty of interviews like the above. The BBC did one recently with a group of young 2nd gen muslims, and I believe one muslim convert, who were even more extreme. They wanted Sharia and total conversion to islam for all UK citizens. Their conviction was 100% that western society was to be overthrown at any cost.

The fact that people keep trying to deflect criticism, by using tactics such as shouting "EDL!" or "Crusades!" as rebuttal to every point, suggests strongly that certain people don't /want/ to listen. Don't /want/ to see a problem.
 
Boycey0211 said:
Yeah but it made that point using a select group of about 6 people :rolleyes:

There are no 'no-go' zones, feeling safe is purely subjective, anyone can feel unsafe in their area regardless of race or religion.

Again, my point is ignored, what if someone collected 6 white supremacists from Britain and filmed them, does this speak for all of us???

What about Brits saying that they don't want muslims around, does that not count as a 'no-go' zone???

Speaking as a relatively right wing christian male this discussion is becomeing more about the religion and less about the fact that people are fleeing war.
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I think the problem is that the numbers we are talking about are simply not insignificant. I genuinely do not think for a second that most people on a 1 to 1 basis have a problem with a handful of refuges.

The problem is that we are talking hundreds of thousands out of possible MILLIONS. There is no finite amount of people we are talking about here.

If enough numbers come in (and lets be absolutely honest here, not all these people are refugees), we are going to have a severe problem with integrating them into society.

It was the same with the Irish back in the Kilburn days, people flee worse situations but end up recreating the same tensions and strife that they left.

Yes something needs to be done, but changing the status quo of a country should require more debate and involvement of its people, rather than a certain left leaning school of thought insidiously stifle debate and force its own agenda.
 
Boycey0211 said:
If you hate religion, then leave it out of the debate, just think of these people as human beings. IF ww3 started and you had to move, would you want people saying 'oh no, dont let him in, he's one of those christians' or would you rather drown in the meditarranian?
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If WW3 happens, Christians in muslim lands will "disappear" anyhow. Like they have steadily been doing in just about all muslim lands recently.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...g-church-dedicated-to-workers-killed-by-isis/

Muslims only accept muslims in their own lands. They are purging non-muslims quite successfully.

You really are deluded if you think warring muslim lands would accept Christian immigrants. Well, they might if you convert. Otherwise not a chance.
 
FoxEye said:
Are you a muslim Boycey? It does seem that certain people are displaying an absolute refusal to accept even the /possibility/ that there is a problem.

There are plenty of interviews like the above. The BBC did one recently with a group of young 2nd gen muslims, and I believe one muslim convert, who were even more extreme. They wanted Sharia and total conversion to islam for all UK citizens. Their conviction was 100% that western society was to be overthrown at any cost.

The fact that people keep trying to deflect criticism, by using tactics such as shouting "EDL!" or "Crusades!" as rebuttal to every point, suggests strongly that certain people don't /want/ to listen. Don't /want/ to see a problem.
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Nope, not a muslim. Was raised as a christian but I'm agnostic in my own views.

I do agree that theres a problem and have stated that, in my own words, migration needs to be in a controlled form that is sustainable to the UK as a whole, which in current terms it is, if you look at facts.

Any media format can collect a group with extremist views to get clicks/likes/shares from either side, thats a fact and it clearly works on a minority, as shown in this thread.

I'm not shouting any of those things as I think that anyone promoting that propaganda would be so obvious that they would be banned, idiocy however is not bannable I don't think.
 
Boycey0211 said:
Yeah but it made that point using a select group of about 6 people :rolleyes:

There are no 'no-go' zones, feeling safe is purely subjective, anyone can feel unsafe in their area regardless of race or religion.

Again, my point is ignored, what if someone collected 6 white supremacists from Britain and filmed them, does this speak for all of us???

What about Brits saying that they don't want muslims around, does that not count as a 'no-go' zone???

Speaking as a relatively right wing christian male this discussion is becomeing more about the religion and less about the fact that people are fleeing war.
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Do you want them to interview every single one? At the start it said the school and many other schools had the same issue with feelings towards how they treated their women.

But my point still sits with how whole areas can become no-go zones for the locals.
 
Boycey0211 said:
Nope, not a muslim. Was raised as a christian but I'm agnostic in my own views.

I do agree that theres a problem and have stated that, in my own words, migration needs to be in a controlled form that is sustainable to the UK as a whole, which in current terms it is, if you look at facts.

Any media format can collect a group with extremist views to get clicks/likes/shares from either side, thats a fact and it clearly works on a minority, as shown in this thread.

I'm not shouting any of those things as I think that anyone promoting that propaganda would be so obvious that they would be banned, idiocy however is not bannable I don't think.
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That has to be the most ambiguous reply ever. :D
 
teaboy5 said:
Do you want them to interview every single one? At the start it said the school and many other schools had the same issue with feelings towards how they treated their women.

But my point still sits with how whole areas can become no-go zones for the locals.
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Yeah but I can say that eveyone else has the same opinion as me without evidence...

Where are these no-go zones? I don't want to go into them by accident...
 
Boycey0211 said:
How? Because I gave my opinion which you haven't?

Jog on, you're on the verge of trolling tbh, I answered all of his questions.
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WFT on earth do you support immigration or importation of people.

Basically thats what it is? What floats your boat so much that we can provide for these people.

You either young or collage educated. :rolleyes:
 
teaboy5 said:
Do you want them to interview every single one? At the start it said the school and many other schools had the same issue with feelings towards how they treated their women.

But my point still sits with how whole areas can become no-go zones for the locals.
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How many Brits joined ISIS in Syria? About 600 at last count?

So his "there's only 6 muslims in that interview" posturing is just absurd. There's 600 extremist muslims that have joined ISIS from Britain. Those are the most extreme.

How many slightly less extreme muslims are there in Britain? Thousands. How many identify as muslim first, British second (or not at all?). Almost all of them. Their religion always comes first.

And remember, we are all infidels. Less than dogs.
 
FoxEye said:
How many Brits joined ISIS in Syria? About 600 at last count?

So his "there's only 6 muslims in that interview" posturing is just absurd. There's 600 extremist muslims that have joined ISIS from Britain. Those are the most extreme.

How many slightly less extreme muslims are there in Britain? Thousands. How many identify as muslim first, British second (or not at all?). Almost all of them. Their religion always comes first.

And remember, we are all infidels. Less than dogs.
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Yup, and I've been taking part in the fight against the ones who take up arms, what have you done?

The careers office is only a short way away, and I've met loads of decent muslims too, a few of which I've had the pleasure of serving with
 
itchy said:
WFT on earth do you support immigration or importation of people.

Basically thats what it is? What floats your boat so much that we can provide for these people.

You either young or collage educated. :rolleyes:
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I support refugees, that is people fleeing war or persecution.

Just because you don't understand words doesn't mean you can get angry with people over it.

You either young or collage educated
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Would like to repost this again for the lack of proper english and spelling mistakes. Education counts for a lot.
 
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