well according to the refugees a lot of them arnt even syrian they're Iraqi or from Afghanistan and just destroy thier documents and say theyre Syrian to take up the German/Swedish offer.
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well according to the refugees a lot of them arnt even syrian they're Iraqi or from Afghanistan and just destroy thier documents and say theyre Syrian to take up the German/Swedish offer.
well maybe they will have a better comprehension of written english than you do?
We are one of the richest countries in the world, we can look after our own its just our right wing government chooses to punish the poor, we have a moral responsibility to help true refugees
The same fella who has installed his IRA supporting chum, to his shadow cabinet. I don't know what's more dangerous Corbyn or the middle east
Surely though to be classed as a refugee you go to the nearest stable country. To cross over 10 (TEN) countries, who are stable, just to get here, puts you into the migrant camp, not refugee.
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Anyone know when Corbyn has to kneel before the queen?
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The real Syrian refugees are in camps in the Lebanon.
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It's very early days but so far Corbyn is everything I've come to expect. I think Labour supporters here can forget about winning back Scotland at the next election, I can't see Scots voting for Labour with Corbyn as leader unless the SNP implodes over the next 4.5 years.
Also how do you reconcile Jeremy Corbyn as an anti establishment opposition leader with being a career politician? I thought people were fed up with this type?
Also how do you reconcile Jeremy Corbyn as an anti establishment opposition leader with being a career politician? I thought people were fed up with this type?
It seems that, if you agree with his policies, the union job he had qualifies as being out of politics. In truth he has always worked in politics in one form or another.
This is interesting:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...ader-tim-farron-with-threats-of-a2949546.html
Could be hot air, but if it's even remotely true then the dominoes could be about to fall. It'll only take one or two high profile people to defect for the floodgates to open.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...ader-tim-farron-with-threats-of-a2949546.html
Could be hot air, but if it's even remotely true then the dominoes could be about to fall. It'll only take one or two high profile people to defect for the floodgates to open.
It would be a pretty shrewd move by the lib dems even if they'd only got actual interest from 1-2 making a bit of noise about it would start a bit of momentum.
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no-one should be kneeling to anyone in this country
its just ceremonial but interesting on his take on it. most people would just do it as part of the things I have to do to get the job type of thing
If he refuses will he still take the £6m that comes with the job.
Why on earth would any labour MP defect to a party that's almost finished? If the defectors are career politicians they would want to move to a party that at least has a chance of gaining seats rather than losing like the Lib Dems.
Where do you get £6m from?
When he joins the privy council he is entitled to £6m funds to run the opposition leaders office.
One bad election doesn't mark a decline. The Lib Dem 2015 campaign will go down in history as how to really screw up an election. I'm not sure who suggested selling coalition and moderation, but I sincerely hope they no longer work for the party. Worst. Idea. Ever. "If you think Labour will borrow too much or the Conservatives will cut too much, vote for us as we'll help to keep them in check."...or just vote for Labour/The Conservatives. That way your vote counts toward the outcome that you actually want.
2020 should be a better year for them. They still have a decent amount of support. It could be a very good year if Corbyn is still running the Labour Party. If the right people from Labour defect it could be a very, very good year.
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I don't think the 2015 campaign had anything to do with their downfall. They never really recovered from the tuition fees debacle, so while the other parties were getting hounded for refusing to even talk about the possibility of coalitions, the lib dems were treated with contempt by the elecorate despite every remotely good thing that came from the 2010-2015 government being because of them.
There is no "£6m that comes with the job" - that is an out-and-out lie put forward by The Sun that deliberately confuses two issues - Short money and the Privy Council.
Short money is given to the opposition; it is in no way, shape, or form dependent on joining the Privy Council.
Corbyn will, by the way, be joining the Privy Council.
It can hardly be a worse year, can it?
Their success depends on convincing Labour voters to vote tactically against the Tories, and that will need a solid body of anti-Tory voters. Without incumbency to help them and now classified as a minor party for coverage purposes they will struggle to win on any other basis. They may well lose some of the seats they took this time round.
They're now well into minor party territory with single figure support and little prospect of recovery. The only reason they're relevant at all is the extent to which they stacked the Lords last parliament.