Nexus 5 2015 refresh

Freefaller said:
I think "joke" is a little strong. It is just based around user demand/need - more and more people are cloud based now. For example, I have nearly 100gb of music, but it's all on the cloud, and I just sync what I want to listen to if I am going to be off line, or stream it. Or if I'm going on hols, put it on a USB stick and just plug it into my phone via an adapter.

The movies you have surely are backed up and you don't need them on your phone ALL the time?

I guess your point is, why shouldn't you have it on your phone all the time - again that's fair enough - but I think it just comes down to managing your data around the capabilities/capacities offered to you.
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I use poweramp for music & it does't play from cloud. The built in players are poor quality compared to power amp. So I need all music on the phone all the time.

I'm sure it doesn't cost much more to put 64gb as standard on a phone.
 
Skeeter said:
Loads of people have fast data connections, they just don't have the allowance from their phone carrier to actually use it for more than 5 minutes :(.

I think its like the "MOAR BLADES" thing with razors. If camera specs don't keep going up, people dismiss them as being rubbish. But in reality almost nobody is going to use the camera to its full potential, so theres no real need to build the other phone specs around it that need it.

Same story with screens. They are getting massive and super high resolution, but if you actually run a significant amount of content on them at their native resolution you'd empty the battery in an hour.

Its all about the numbers on paper rather than actually being used.
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Yeah you're right. That's the thing, people slated the N5 camera, but I took and have taken and continue to take some great shots on it, to which a lot of people couldn't believe it was from a mobile phone. For me it's my main camera now just because it is on you all the time.

The fact that you can access the internet and do a lot of stuff with them as well is a bonus. PRoblem is they cram all this tech in and don't offer the battery capacity or the ability to exploit the features well enough so that you wait for the next iteration to come out - that's how they make their money I guess. Keep people buying their phones.

If they released the "perfect" phone. Reasonable screen size, decent battery, better than average camera, all the cool features like NFC, SD card, wireless charging finger print scanning etc... they'd sell by the bucket load. And then when better hardware comes along, people can and will continue to upgrade. I don't get why they don't get this!
 
kitkat2015 said:
I use poweramp for music & it does't play from cloud. The built in players are poor quality compared to power amp. So I need all music on the phone all the time.

I'm sure it doesn't cost much more to put 64gb as standard on a phone.
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No it probably doesn't - it's down to marketing and being sneaky with how they place the phone on the market. I can understand that this is frustrating for you.

I am frustrated the N5 may not be as good a step up from the current N5. It's making me look at the N6P (which is still too big I think) or the Z5.
 
Freefaller said:
I am frustrated the N5 may not be as good a step up from the current N5. It's making me look at the N6P (which is still too big I think) or the Z5.
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From the leaked details, its not even a step up. Its the same performance in a slightly bigger form for an additional $30.

If my N5 wasn't broken I wouldn't even be looking at the 5X.
 
My OPO is 64Gb, and i store a few Nandroid backups, about 3-4Gb of music (a lot of albums), lots of pictures, and i'm still running mostly with about 20Gb free.
Considering most of that is taken up with Nandroid backups, 32Gb is fine for me. If there's a 64Gb model then i'd certainly get it, but its not like 32Gb will restrict me.
 
Skeeter said:
From the leaked details, its not even a step up. Its the same performance in a slightly bigger form for an additional $30.

If my N5 wasn't broken I wouldn't even be looking at the 5X.
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Indeed. Maybe me wanting a new phone is unnecessary. The N5 works perfectly well and is great. But I kinda want a new / better phone :p
 
AlecR said:
But why is that a bad thing? The Nexus 5 still performs great, it's one of the best-lasting Android devices I've used.
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Because you can buy a 5 for £200. Unless you have a really strong desire for a phone the colour of a Softmint, why would you pay ~£100 more for a 5X?

Currently the best replacement for my broken Nexus 5 is a Nexus 5 :/
 
Skeeter said:
Because you can buy a 5 for £200. Unless you have a really strong desire for a phone the colour of a Softmint, why would you pay ~£100 more for a 5X?

Currently the best replacement for my broken Nexus 5 is a Nexus 5 :/
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Better camera, battery + other stuff that we don't know about yet??

I have a Nexus 5 and I'll almost certainly be getting a 5X to replace it, even if the screen was still intact.
 
As discussed above, the 'betterness' of the camera is redundant as the rest of the device isn't geared towards using it. I'm not in the habbit of taking lots of 4K videos.

The battery is marginally better, but then the screen is also bigger, so the net result is no difference.

The benchmarked performance is fractionally better than the N5.

Nothing in that makes me think its worth 50% more than an N5.

(That isn't to say that I won't have ordered one by the end of the day because I'm a mug who likes shiny things :p)
 
kitkat2015 said:
I have 40gb of music & 16gb of movies.

32gb is a joke in this day & age.
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I thought that too. When I was on iPhone, I loathed that it did not have an Ext SD slot for storage expansion. Now, on Google, I have 16GB int, and 64GB ext, and I hate all the problems the ext card causes with my camera etc. I'll probably compromise on my next phone and have 32GB int only, and rely on 4G for everything else. TBH, I have ~90GB music on my PC, of which about 30GB is on my phone. I find that I almost never use it now, and instead just stream using spotify which works perfectly fine on Three's 3G.

Question though... do Nexus devices support OTG, or was that a Samsung thing?
 
Skeeter said:
Because you can buy a 5 for £200. Unless you have a really strong desire for a phone the colour of a Softmint, why would you pay ~£100 more for a 5X?

Currently the best replacement for my broken Nexus 5 is a Nexus 5 :/
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I think you missed the specs? This is better than the N5 in every way.
 
Posted this further back but will post again :p

Wait to see reviews, actual impressions etc. first....... whilst the "specs. on paper" might not seem much better, there is more to a display and camera than just the res. and MP count i.e. pixel size/sensor, how much better the display is for view ability in sunshine, colours, contrast ratio, viewing angles etc.

So far the new LG nexus looks a decent enough upgrade to me:

- front facing stereo speakers (nexus 5 speaker is shocking)
- slightly bigger screen and "should" be of better quality....
- finger print unlocker
- higher specs "overall"
- USB type C
- laser focus for the camera (iirc the same as used in the LG G4)

So if the camera and display are significantly better with even slightly better battery life along with all the above, I think that will be a worthy upgrade to the n5, of course pricing will be key like for any device, I think £300-350 for all the above will be good value.
 
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