Cameron's housing plans
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Depends on the quality but a rough guess would be about 40k
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That might buy you a tiny bit of land.
Yes if your right if your buying land to build 1 house but if you bought a plot of land to build say 38 houses it would average at a cost of 40k per house
I live in a plot of new builds where the average cost to build each house was 40k my boss is mates and next door neighbor with the developer
It is profit as well the land is not worth anywhere near that value, They hold onto it and sell at that price because they know that land is limited and all taken up so if you fail to pay you fail to build a home. Without a home you are screwed rich land owners have everyone by the curlys and they love it.
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Not sure about big developments but a quick quote for a single 3 bed house I ran:
My project estimate
Your self build is a 160m2 three bedroom house in Undecided Location with a standard-level finish. Your project includes: attached single garage;.
Your base price for this project would start from around:
Building Route: All work by package house company or main contractor
Cost per m2: £1,323
Total Cost: £211,600
Building Route: 75% of work by sub contractor, 25% by owner
Cost per m2: £1,150
Total Cost: £183,920
Building Route: 25% of work by sub contractor, 75% by owner
Cost per m2: £803
Total Cost: £128,400
Doesn't include land.
My project estimate
Your self build is a 160m2 three bedroom house in Undecided Location with a standard-level finish. Your project includes: attached single garage;.
Your base price for this project would start from around:
Building Route: All work by package house company or main contractor
Cost per m2: £1,323
Total Cost: £211,600
Building Route: 75% of work by sub contractor, 25% by owner
Cost per m2: £1,150
Total Cost: £183,920
Building Route: 25% of work by sub contractor, 75% by owner
Cost per m2: £803
Total Cost: £128,400
Doesn't include land.
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Are you sure the houses aren't actually cardboard boxes?
How about £10k for an acre, £3k for a 45ft shipping container? Now i have seen these insulated with foam and connected to the mains and infact, Germany is doing this right now for Asylum seekers.
A farmer in derry had something like £120k and chose to build from a container on Grand Designs, The houses are actually fantastic when the wood is done on the outside and the roof has fake grass for a porch. And they do not erode nor do they crack like bricks and mortar.
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Profit can fall between 10%-50% of sale price, once all costs and overheads are taken into account including land values, planning fees, infrastructure costs etc and depending on whether it's affordable.
The advent of affordable housing has been counter productive and actually artificially inflated the purchase price of non affordable over the years, as this is where the developer has to generate their profits.
Less or no affordable on regular developments means a more balanced price on the whole. Prices won't go down but they may stabilise.
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Good idea but getting planning permission will be a problem in the UK
They can get permission in Derry, And there are containers in places like Belfast and London already just check Grand Designs for the examples. And you can beat them if you find the land. For example normally a shipping container can rest on 4 drilled concrete posts, Anyone can build foundations for one. But if you put it on wheels you avoid planning permissions laws. You could easily buy a 40-45ft chassis second hand and have it sprayed. Who cares about being roadworthy as long as it has wheels to get around the planning permission. Which is a huge problem in the UK it is a hinderance on purpose to inflate the housing bubble.
I looked into it, And all the costs and i forsee one day that this will be my option for home ownership. I find it cheaper and more attractive than living in a normal street packed in with anti-social scum like chickens. And people wonder why something like 50% of the UK population have problems with neighbours. #Chickencoop
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Dont you think political leaders sound like magicians like Copperfield. For my next trick, houses, houses everywhere and you can buy them.
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Is that a bad thing? Is being able to buy a house alone ever something we've really had in the UK? It strikes me as being the traditional route to home ownership for the vast majority of home owners. How many 20somethings in the 80's were buying houses themselves to live in alone?
Having sole ownership of your own property might be nice but seems very much a luxury. Most of us will end up buying with a partner and is that really so out of order?
Not in cambridge it wouldn't be. It's one third profit, one third build cost and one third for the land. You are not going to build a 2 bed house for 40k unless you built the whole thing yourself and ignored your own labour costs.
A decent loft conversion costs that without buying the land!
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There is a lot of space outside of the green belt even in London. A lot of old buildings and brown field sites. They built some new homes near me. Very low quality 8 floor blocks. They cost about 200k. The guy I work with sister purchased one without even seeing her flat, she did with looking at a show home. She has regretted it because of design problems and cheap materials. They are also very small, one room kitchen living room.
I think they should build houses to a high standard and sell them for what ever they can get away with. Problem is the developer build low quality small properties becasude they make more money from it. Gov should force developers to create properties that are bigger than the smallest they van get away with.
I think they should build houses to a high standard and sell them for what ever they can get away with. Problem is the developer build low quality small properties becasude they make more money from it. Gov should force developers to create properties that are bigger than the smallest they van get away with.
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This. I never understand people use the whole. ive lived here all my life argument. so what. think how many of the worlds population move for work or a place to live etc
It cracks me up when so many people hold so much faith in Government. They simply don't care. If it costs them money they aren't interested.
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The current trend at least in London is max 8 floor blocks with 4 flats per floor. For them to make a flat like that appealing to people who own a 300k + house they would have to squeeze 2 in a floor at the same size block they fit 4 in before and spend another 50k per flat on the quality of the development. So the developers look at this and optimise profit by building the most flats as cheap as they can, to be sold at a rate that will sell, given location and size. The result of this situation is more and more small and crap flats being built and the price of them going up and up.
If they instead built houses for 350k market price people in other houses flats would consider moving up to them freeing up their houses for people looking for houses at 200k. Plus the more not lowest prices that are built the less lower quality housing will be valued at. Keep building the bottom end and the price will never go down or said in another way, keep building low end housing and quality of housing for everyone will never increase.
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