Astronomers may have found Aliens

OhEsEcks said:
Because learned people aren't ignorant. Learned people who spend their lives studying space find that 100% of the time it's not aliens. It's never ****ing aliens. And learned people know that if there was an advanced civilisation that was within reach... and capable of putting **** into space to harvest their suns energy... it would have probably contacted us by now. If we can see them (and this stuff is what they're assuming it is [and you know what happens when you assume])... then they can sure as hell see us.
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But from their perspective we would all be living in mud huts. Why would they bother trying to contact a race with zero technology?
 
ThePirateHulk said:
But from their perspective we would all be living in mud huts. Why would they bother trying to contact a race with zero technology?
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A civilisation, as some people are thinking, that can put structures into space that can harvest their own suns energy and are large enough to be detectable by us, is probably a damn sight more advanced than we are. And if we've apparently found them from a "weird" or "interesting" blob which is currently nothing more than a strange light pattern (yeah, like the universe isn't known for those), they've found us. Because we have all manner of crap orbiting our own planet that would be detectable by their more advanced tools.

And why wouldn't they bother trying to contact a civilisation that can put things into orbit? It's a huge achievement. They might be more advanced, but we're not **** chucking apes. Asking why they would bother to contact us is like asking why we bother trying to contact remote tribes. It gives us a glimpse of were we came from.
 
As someone alluded to earlier if we are just seeing them now, information about us will unlikely to have reached them (unless their observations are not limited by the speed of light) we've not had technology of much consequence let alone man-made objects in orbit long enough for the information to cover nearly 1500 light years.
 
OhEsEcks said:
A civilisation, as some people are thinking, that can put structures into space that can harvest their own suns energy and are large enough to be detectable by us, is probably a damn sight more advanced than we are. And if we've apparently found them from a "weird" or "interesting" blob which is currently nothing more than a strange light pattern (yeah, like the universe isn't known for those), they've found us. Because we have all manner of crap orbiting our own planet that would be detectable by their more advanced tools.

And why wouldn't they bother trying to contact a civilisation that can put things into orbit? It's a huge achievement. They might be more advanced, but we're not **** chucking apes. Asking why they would bother to contact us is like asking why we bother trying to contact remote tribes. It gives us a glimpse of were we came from.
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But if they looked at us now they would not see a species that can but things into orbit. They'd see us as we were in 500AD.
 
adolf hamster said:
If there is an advanced civilisation out there, imagine how they'd view us as a species, it'd be like us finding cavemen, we's just seem so primitive and barbaric to them in comparison.

So whats the bet? Prime directive, relics of a dead civilisation, or zoo exhibits?
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Why barbaric?

They may be a culture that revals in bloodsports and war and consider us digesting hippies for the most part
 
adolf hamster said:
If there is an advanced civilisation out there, imagine how they'd view us as a species, it'd be like us finding cavemen, we's just seem so primitive and barbaric to them in comparison.

So whats the bet? Prime directive, relics of a dead civilisation, or zoo exhibits?
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I doubt it, for a start evolution would strongly suggest they themselfs are predators with very similar history.
And they could see what technological path we are on.
 
So its 1,490 light years away... So that 'structure' is what was there 1490 year ago rather than today... Science is cool.

If you think how car we have come in 1500 years they might have developed even more. If its aliens.
 
wildman said:
don't know why learned people say this ? It is pretty ignorant for us to think we are the only sentient advanced civilisation in the universe ? I would say that Aliens would be the first thing you would think of ??
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What Physicists generally accept:

The chances for a planet having the conditions for life to develop is low and brief so for there to be life within our reach or 'locally' is next to nothing.

The universe is large enough that you can assume that life is out there but likely not within vicinity which is of any significance to us at the moment
 
Advanced sentient life has existed on this earth for a relatively short amount of time given the age of the earth and the universe. It's not difficult for me to believe we're the only advanced life in the galaxy at this point in time. I don't consider it likely, but still.
 
Crizzy said:
Maybe to plunder our booty! (read of that what you will).
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OhEsEcks said:
Aaawww yeah! Free anal probes!
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Together those posts relate to each-other, but as they are on different pages, posted at different times it's only possible to bring them together artificially and theorise how they may have interacted. At this point in time this is all we could hope for if aliens were discovered, we could only theorise how our species may interact, if at all.
 
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