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Please explain how Christianity is in any way, shape or form responsible for the Charlie Hebdo killings.

Where any of the cartoonists Christian? I thought they were an atheist publication. So, no.

Could you please explain how you find Christianity to be at fault as regards the killings?

It wasn't however, it is "responsible" for....

1) Britain First
2) Paedophile Priests
3) Anti-Abortion Laws
4) The slowing of progress around gay marriage
 
Please explain how Christianity is in any way, shape or form responsible for the Charlie Hebdo killings.

Where any of the cartoonists Christian? I thought they were an atheist publication. So, no.

Could you please explain how you find Christianity to be at fault as regards the killings?

You are a dog with a muslamic bone aren't you!

1) I didn't mention christianity being related to the CH killings WHATSOEVER. It was a picture designed to be offensive.

2) The cartoonists religion is and was irrelevant, I dont have to be any other religion in order to mock another religion.

3) Where did I say christianity was at fault for the killings? Erm, nowhere, thats where. What I did use and I think you're desperately trying to find some link to is the last two lines of my post, which I'll repeat for you.

What was it, 4 guys? 4 guys out of billions of believers, probably millions of those offended, 4 take up arms and suddenly its the religion at fault.

Christianity is equally at fault if we use stats like that.

Read it. Now read it again. Yep, thats right, we may aswell base the opinions of a nations on yours alone if you can't understand that statement.

Until your mums basement in Cornwall falls to the muslamic tide please feel free to put words in my mouth. Again.
 
yup they were all great points she raised.



Yeah agreed, it was a cartoon. I'm not a muslim, I'm not a devout christian, but some people have a really stong link to their religion.

Now, in the majority of cases where you purposefully set out to offend people you'll get a verbal disagreement, thats fair enough.

But to us a 'bloody cartoon!' (I agree btw) is hugely offensive. Now lets consider the 99.9999999% of people who took it in bad taste as an offence to them but did not act.

What was it, 4 guys? 4 guys out of billions of believers, probably millions of those offended, 4 take up arms and suddenly its the religion at fault.

Christianity is equally at fault if we use stats like that.

Yeah it was public and against what we live for, but we live in a world with nutters regardless of skin colour or religion.


Two guys wasn't it? Which Muslim shooting are you referring to? The cartoon competition in Texas was within freedom of speech limits, proven by the fact it went ahead, the predictable Muslim dysfunction reared it's ugly head and was immediately shut down with a dose of hot American freedom.

You don't have to like it, but you just can't silence people for speech you don't like. If free speech makes you a homicidal maniac then that's proof positive you belong in a 3rd world toilet and are not welcome in the civilised world.


Edit, ah, Charlie Hebdo, should have refreshed page. Get all these massacres mixed up.
 
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Are our Armed Forces and Police just going to sit back and let this country unravel?

Every Church Bell in every Village Town and City should be ringing. I dare not feel safe even to allow my daughter to go to the corner shop after dark.
 
You are a dog with a muslamic bone aren't you!

1) I didn't mention christianity being related to the CH killings WHATSOEVER. It was a picture designed to be offensive.

2) The cartoonists religion is and was irrelevant, I dont have to be any other religion in order to mock another religion.

3) Where did I say christianity was at fault for the killings? Erm, nowhere, thats where. What I did use and I think you're desperately trying to find some link to is the last two lines of my post, which I'll repeat for you.



Read it. Now read it again. Yep, thats right, we may aswell base the opinions of a nations on yours alone if you can't understand that statement.

Until your mums basement in Cornwall falls to the muslamic tide please feel free to put words in my mouth. Again.

What are you saying Christianity is at fault for then?

It's not my fault that you were talking about the cartoons, and the subsequent reprisals, then you throw in a line about Christianity being "at fault" for something.

I mean, I've read it multiple times now, and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret that line, if as you say it's nothing to do with the cartoon or the reprisals (which is the context of your post?)

Explain then?
 
What are you saying Christianity is at fault for then?

It's not my fault that you were talking about the cartoons, and the subsequent reprisals, then you throw in a line about Christianity being "at fault" for something.

I mean, I've read it multiple times now, and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interpret that line, if as you say it's nothing to do with the cartoon or the reprisals (which is the context of your post?)

Explain then?


did you not notice that christianity wasn't mentioned until after everything else, because it isn't relevent to those points????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

(apart from opening sentence to clarify my own views only)


I mean, you've read it multiple times so unless youve got an agenda you must have noticed.

I'll post it again

What was it, 4 guys? 4 guys out of billions of believers, probably millions of those offended, 4 take up arms and suddenly its the religion at fault.

Christianity is equally at fault if we use stats like that.

read it and THINK man. THINK.

If I go and kill someone tomorrow because they say jesus is bad, I assume I speak for the entire religion and the UK as a whole yes?
 
Calm down. You've clarified what you meant and I honestly thought you were saying something else.

I don't think, however, that in a poll of random Christians, you'd find more than 0.1% saying they believed killing someone who mocked Jesus was a good idea.

We should be objective enough to be able to highlight differences between islam and Christianity.

Despite what you might think (as an atheist or otherwise), they are not the same. If nothing else, Christianity has moved on from brutality and oppression, whereas islam has not.
 
Calm down. You've clarified what you meant and I honestly thought you were saying something else.

I don't think, however, that in a poll of random Christians, you'd find more than 0.1% saying they believed killing someone who mocked Jesus was a good idea.

We should be objective enough to be able to highlight differences between islam and Christianity.

Despite what you might think (as an atheist or otherwise), they are not the same. If nothing else, Christianity has moved on from brutality and oppression, whereas islam has not.

Not one poll has asked Muslims whether they though the killing was a good idea, so lets discount infactual stats now.

The differences with Islam and Christianity do not need highlighting further, theyre pretty clear cut if you compare the bible and the koran.

But yet the last statement decries islam as brutal. In certain iterations certainly, but is it not our job to accept that islam can be a peaceful religion as is already dictated by millions of them worldwide, or are they all brutal as you say?

I mean whats the %age of extremists compared to the bloke who lives next door to you? He could be a white british muslim but I bet that sickens you.
 
But yet the last statement decries islam as brutal. In certain iterations certainly, but is it not our job to accept that islam can be a peaceful religion as is already dictated by millions of them worldwide, or are they all brutal as you say?

I mean whats the %age of extremists compared to the bloke who lives next door to you? He could be a white british muslim but I bet that sickens you.

Islam, as we keep saying, is not just a religion. Forget non-practicing muslims living in Britain. Look at the islamic states. Look at Pakistan, Iran, Saudi, Qatar.

Those are the perfection of islam. The complete islamic package.

Now tell me that Christian countries deserve to be thrown into the same pile as that lot - in 2015, not going back to the middle ages.

Then consider that the wars fought in recent times by Christian countries are not religious in nature. But the fighting in islamic countries tends to be only about various differences in their religion. Ie, all relgiously motivated.

We are completely different. Our culture is different. Or views on women, slavery, and freedom etc are different.

Muslims living in Britain to some extent have to bend islam or water it down, unless they want to find themselves in prison. But in islamic states, you get to see the true nature of the religion/political and judicial system that is islam. Pretty, isn't it.
 
Islam, as we keep saying, is not just a religion. Forget non-practicing muslims living in Britain. Look at the islamic states. Look at Pakistan, Iran, Saudi, Qatar.

Those are the perfection of islam. The complete islamic package.

Now tell me that Christian countries deserve to be thrown into the same pile as that lot - in 2015, not going back to the middle ages.

Then consider that the wars fought in recent times by Christian countries are not religious in nature. But the fighting in islamic countries tends to be only about various differences in their religion. Ie, all relgiously motivated.

We are completely different. Our culture is different. Or views on women, slavery, and freedom etc are different.

Muslims living in Britain to some extent have to bend islam or water it down, unless they want to find themselves in prison. But in islamic states, you get to see the true nature of the religion/political and judicial system that is islam. Pretty, isn't it.

You're just talking **** tbh, I've lived and worked in a few of those states since 2007 onwards on and off, and its nothing like you assume it is.

TBH I don't think you actually have a clue about other cultures. Have you met one yet?

Really I can see where youre trying to come from, but people have told you time and time and time again over the last 4 months that this stuff isnt true, and its the same party line you come out with after all this time.

I've given you accounts before about the different types of muslims that ive worked with, you've clearly just ignored everything.

Honestly, I can't explain my opinions to a man who cant find the bone he's trying so desperately to pick. I feel a bit sorry for you.
 
Don't feel sorry for me. The tide is turning. People all over the EU are rejecting the multi culti utopian dream, and pretty soon I hope we'll be able to elect someone with a backbone, who will put the idea to bed once and for all.

Also: what "stuff" isn't true. The "stuff" that's being reported in the media all over the world? None of it is true? Islamic militants haven't been executing Christians in the ME and in Africa?

Saudi isn't a completely backwards place concerning human rights, women's rights, gay rights? They have freedom of religion and don't imprison people for leaving islam? Pakistan doesn't have a problem with honour killing? There weren't reported killings of daughters in this country? 600 "British muslims" didn't go join ISIS? There aren't muslims campaigning for Sharia in Britain?

Yeah, pull the other one. You want us to believe that islam is peaceful because you say so. And you want us to ignore the myriad of sources that say otherwise. Well, I wonder what I should do.

e: Sooner or later, my muslim loving friend, we will fight back. There may well be bloodshed, as we fight to reclaim our heritage and not let it be destroyed by a parasitic invading culture. Wonder whose side you'll be on?
 
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You're just talking **** tbh, I've lived and worked in a few of those states since 2007 onwards on and off, and its nothing like you assume it is.

TBH I don't think you actually have a clue about other cultures. Have you met one yet?

Really I can see where youre trying to come from, but people have told you time and time and time again over the last 4 months that this stuff isnt true, and its the same party line you come out with after all this time.

I've given you accounts before about the different types of muslims that ive worked with, you've clearly just ignored everything.

Honestly, I can't explain my opinions to a man who cant find the bone he's trying so desperately to pick. I feel a bit sorry for you.



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You keeping me up late! :p
 

Well said love.
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This is so on Point, yet all the self loathers insists on bemoaning the west stating that we are the cause for every issue anywhere in the world. The ME has been in turmoil for centuries, we didn't create that!

Meanwhile, Russia is excellent and people seem proud that they are a ruthless nation quite happy to smash up anything with little concern for collateral damage.
 
Austrian fences useless, policeman on megaphone: 'please no pushing!'


Why aren't the military dealing with this?


The gimmi-grents went on the riot in Greece last month and no one done a thing.
They're all scared of name calling.
We need someone with a back bone to sort this scum out.
 
Austrian fences useless, policeman on megaphone: 'please no pushing!'


Why aren't the military dealing with this?


B-but they are engineers and doctors, pregnant women and children! This must be Nazi propaganda!


Seriously, if this is allowed to continue unabated, as liberals, SJW's and these parasite-coddlers seem to want it to, a balance won't be reached until the invaders have ****ted things up to a point we're no longer desirable to invade. And since these people are doing the very definition of invasion, I wouldn't condemn military intervention at this point.
 
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