The EU Migrant Crisis

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Boycey0211 said:
You're just talking **** tbh, I've lived and worked in a few of those states since 2007 onwards on and off, and its nothing like you assume it is.

TBH I don't think you actually have a clue about other cultures. Have you met one yet?

Really I can see where youre trying to come from, but people have told you time and time and time again over the last 4 months that this stuff isnt true, and its the same party line you come out with after all this time.

I've given you accounts before about the different types of muslims that ive worked with, you've clearly just ignored everything.

Honestly, I can't explain my opinions to a man who cant find the bone he's trying so desperately to pick. I feel a bit sorry for you.
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A lot of the people with the most extreme opinions are those who have not spent time in the Middle East or mainly Muslim countries haven't got a clue about their culture. They just assume it's what they see on the news - the minority (i.e. a tiny percentage) behaving in extreme ways - it is all sensationalist rubbish, but they buy into it because they think it can be applied uniformly across an entire group of people.

It's actually quite sad and pathetic that people are so scared of other cultures and/or religions.

There are many non Muslims who are far scarier and more dangerous - but it's easy to blame Islam as the current crisis happens to be principally concerning Muslim people. It's really depressing that we live in a world where people are still being typecast on their beliefs/heritage. I thought we had evolved as a race (human race) to be more inclusive. It's a shame we seem to be going backwards. :(
 
SciNeT said:
B-but they are engineers and doctors, pregnant women and children! This must be Nazi propaganda!


Seriously, if this is allowed to continue unabated, as liberals, SJW's and these parasite-coddlers seem to want it to, a balance won't be reached until the invaders have ****ted things up to a point we're no longer desirable to invade. And since these people are doing the very definition of invasion, I wouldn't condemn military intervention at this point.
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It's funny you mention Nazi propaganda then go on to use the same tactic they did with the Jews against refugees.

:rolleyes:
 
FoxEye said:
Saudi isn't a completely backwards place concerning human rights, women's rights, gay rights?
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How is that different from many Christian countries in the developing world? If I was gay, I'd probably take my chances in Saudi Arabia over, say, Uganda.
 
Ok just to offer some perspective 'from the ground', so to speak.

I live in Germany, recently in Dusseldorf, and now in Hamburg. These are two of the areas that have taken the bulk of the refugees.

I see them every day, in Dusseldorf a shelter was made in unused social housing opposite where I lived, in Hamburg buildings on the industrial estate where I work have been converted.

Conditions for them here are basic, porta-cabin toilet and shower blocks, dormitories for sleeping and naff all to do during the day (football with cheap Aldi 1 euro balls is popular).

Out of literally hundreds of encounters, I have neither seen or heard any trouble, they have been polite, quiet and behaving exactly as I would in the situation, trying to keep their children entertained with extremely limited resources, trying to learn the local language as quickly as possible and trying to put a brave face on what lets be honest is probably one of the worst things that can happen to a human.

They aren't some invading hoard here to dismantle everything that we hold dear, they are a displaced people trying to hold things together until they can go back home (and trust me, pretty much all of the genuine refugees are super keen to return).

Don't believe the rubbish that the media is selling, they are driven by the same desires and motivations that we all are, to live in peace and support their families. This is Europe's chance to prove what we can achieve with Western democracy and compassion.
 
Fuzz said:

Well said love.
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She's 100% spot on, Sadly our own traitors over here i.e liberals, Will still make excuses for the primitive misogynistic culture that is islam.
 
Concrete said:
Ok just to offer some perspective 'from the ground', so to speak.

I live in Germany, recently in Dusseldorf, and now in Hamburg. These are two of the areas that have taken the bulk of the refugees.

I see them every day, in Dusseldorf a shelter was made in unused social housing opposite where I lived, in Hamburg buildings on the industrial estate where I work have been converted.

Conditions for them here are basic, porta-cabin toilet and shower blocks, dormitories for sleeping and naff all to do during the day (football with cheap Aldi 1 euro balls is popular).

Out of literally hundreds of encounters, I have neither seen or heard any trouble, they have been polite, quiet and behaving exactly as I would in the situation, trying to keep their children entertained with extremely limited resources, trying to learn the local language as quickly as possible and trying to put a brave face on what lets be honest is probably one of the worst things that can happen to a human.

They aren't some invading hoard here to dismantle everything that we hold dear, they are a displaced people trying to hold things together until they can go back home (and trust me, pretty much all of the genuine refugees are super keen to return).

Don't believe the rubbish that the media is selling, they are driven by the same desires and motivations that we all are, to live in peace and support their families. This is Europe's chance to prove what we can achieve with Western democracy and compassion.
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So the videos of them rioting and destroyingprioerty in other countries they're passing through is all done on a. Film set then.
 
The situation in Germany is getting worse daily worse. There is little negative reporting in the media State Media. The criminality among migrant is rising and the police are all too often looking the other way - it aint PC to do anything else (not with Nazi record) However its changing http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/...-ja-wohl-noch-ermitteln-duerfen-13879439.html This report From Brunswick in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Newspaper. I just love the way so many are heading for Sweden - like hogs to a well filled trough. Many spend their time on their nice mobiles spreading the latest news - wonderful thing the internet and modern communications aint it? IF the Russians are successful then they can all be returned to Syria en mass?. These predominantly young men could be home and fighting for their countries as indeed we in Europe did vast number of the population did not escape to (For example Sweden)
 
Tefal said:
So the videos of them rioting and destroyingprioerty in other countries they're passing through is all done on a. Film set then.
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Or maybe you're seeing the actions of a minority of refugees and applying it to all of them? Nah, that would never happen in this cesspit of a thread...
 
Freefaller said:
A lot of the people with the most extreme opinions are those who have not spent time in the Middle East or mainly Muslim countries haven't got a clue about their culture. They just assume it's what they see on the news - the minority (i.e. a tiny percentage) behaving in extreme ways - it is all sensationalist rubbish, but they buy into it because they think it can be applied uniformly across an entire group of people.

It's actually quite sad and pathetic that people are so scared of other cultures and/or religions.

There are many non Muslims who are far scarier and more dangerous - but it's easy to blame Islam as the current crisis happens to be principally concerning Muslim people. It's really depressing that we live in a world where people are still being typecast on their beliefs/heritage. I thought we had evolved as a race (human race) to be more inclusive. It's a shame we seem to be going backwards. :(
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Indeed, it seems a lot of people are gobbling up this sensationalist garbage into their frothing maws, then going out and buying a big brush to apply it liberally to all people of the same type.
The human race may have evolved but GD seems to be struggling to keep up.

Or maybe you're seeing the actions of a minority of refugees and applying it to all of them?
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That's crazy talk! :p
 
marmalade said:
These predominantly young men could be home and fighting for their countries as indeed we in Europe did
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We?
When?

You mean your ancestors? Who fought against facism and national socialism.
You mean during the world wars? When the country still had conscription (until the 1960s).

You'll find a lot less people willing to engage in a fight for their country these days unless they're conscripted again and forced to fight with the threat of being jailed or shot by their own. Which doesn't make it brave, it makes it a simple act of survival being damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 
Islam is inherently incompatible with secular western values, albeit Islam is thankfully secularising, the main sects are still brutally conservative.

They value woman so little... that you can wave all the progress the past century has garnered for western woman, if we continue to let it envelope our neighbourhoods.

But please, continue the indulgences of liberal nonsensicalism.
 
They do value freedom of speech but in a completely different way to Western understanding and norms.

They do value secularism but in a completely different way to Western understanding and norms.

They do value human rights but in a completely different way to Western understanding and norms.
 
Freefaller said:
A lot of the people with the most extreme opinions are those who have not spent time in the Middle East or mainly Muslim countries haven't got a clue about their culture. They just assume it's what they see on the news - the minority (i.e. a tiny percentage) behaving in extreme ways - it is all sensationalist rubbish, but they buy into it because they think it can be applied uniformly across an entire group of people.

It's actually quite sad and pathetic that people are so scared of other cultures and/or religions.
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Yet your side has nothing but soundbites and "think of the children" rhetoric. Not only that, you completely ignore or brush under the carpet the real, demonstrable problems that are /already occurring/.

Many vile things have already happened in the name of "multi-culturalism". But won't ever hear about them if your side had their way. All brushed conveniently under the carpet.

"White shame" has taken hold for many of you. We're so terrible, we have a terrible past, we should be ashamed of all the stuff we've invented, of all the progress the west made and exported to the lesser nations, let's let the wolf at the gate inside and make him feel welcome as he feeds on us.

What are these places doing for the world? Apart from perpetual civil war in many of these areas, what have they done recently? What has Saudi given the world apart from oil, and their tendancy to fund extremism abroad? What has Iran given us?

Why are we so ashamed to be world leaders in science and tech, and why do we want to import intolerance and violence from these backwards places?

Japan and Australia are the models we should follow. Keep the hordes outside your gates. Protect yourselves.
 
FishFluff said:
Or maybe you're seeing the actions of a minority of refugees and applying it to all of them? Nah, that would never happen in this cesspit of a thread...
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You mean exactly like the guy who's seen a few who've been housed behave and is applying that to all of them?


Nah its gotta be fine if it's the other way around right.
 
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