I started watching a movie last night with the lights off - that's a mistake I won't be making again with it D:
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I started watching a movie last night with the lights off - that's a mistake I won't be making again with it D:
Biggest load of made up crap Ive ever seen on a forum.
If Glow was the same on all units then everyone should have the same amount. Which they dont.
If glow was the same across all IPS Monitors, then they would all have the same amount of glow at the same brightness level at the same angle and distance, right? But they dont.
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Black ops 3 is far from dark, I mean something like Alien Isolation where there are plenty of areas with near-pitchblackness.
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Its an IPS monitor. They have Glow. Currently there is no way of avoiding if you want an IPS monitor. If you don't want Glow don't get an IPS monitor. Simple as is.
Then don't then?
Indeed. BLB is a pain. Completely ruins any black screen.. Glow is a... feature. Its not nearly as distracting as the narrow viewing angles of a TN screen for example, which personally speaking drives me nuts, that and the poor colour reproduction. The best monitor I ever owned was an old CRT monitor ironically enough an Acer, no TFT screen comes close to a CRT in terms of colour reproduction, lack of Glow or viewing angles but IPS is the nearest thing, to me at anyrate. And a lot less bulky.
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if all other variables were the same then they would. As I said it's the variation in monitor settings, ambient light, viewing position, viewing distance, camera setting etc that causes it to look different. The underlying panel characteristics aren't changing. The only thing which would have some influence is any bleed or clouding from the backlight and I've already explained how to test that effectively while eliminating other possible variables. You can capture that far more reliably and consistently than you can trying to ask people to take photos of glow and compare them. You won't get any meaningful comparison from those kind of photos as there's too many things that can influence it. All it does is further confuse people (like yourself seemingly!) and provide an unrealistic view of reality
No not across all IPS panels. But across the same panel used in different units, yes. Again if al other factors are constant
So if Id grab 10x PG279Q, they would all have the exact same amount of visible Glow on a Solid Black background, during the exact same Position, Angle and ambient Lighting, according to you, right? But they wouldnt.
They, would, not.
Some units have zero visible glow at the exact same conditions.
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Exposure time, etc. The picture I took of mine looks much worse than looking at it by eye, or my eye at anyrate, the camera just seems to make bring it out.
If you had them set up in the exact same way and could control all variables exactly then they would. Im not going to argue with you any more about it. If you want to go looking at loads of user photos of glow for comparisons then be my guest. I've explained why it's pointless but if that's what you feel will give you a good idea then fine. My point is and always had been that you will only capture variance in other factors by doing that not in anything related to the panel or sample itself. You can't possibly control everything else to make it a useful comparison
this what i found, any pic ive taken of blb/glow look far worse than by eye
Just for reference here's an exaggerated "glow" comparison between IPS & VA. IPS has a general glow plus the 4 points of BLB bleed which apppear to be worse on the left on every pic I've seen posted.
Here's about as close as I can get to an eye view using my crappy camera in the dark. Looking closely at the bottom desktop image the glow is slightly visible to the top left and bottom left edge of the Shodan picture (which is the same height as the X34). You can just make out the border of the screen. where the VA panel above is basically evenly black all round (The Shodan image is smaller then the screen size).
Which is to say it's not that bad unless your looking for it but they do vary a bit. I've watched films on both and my preference is more to do with eliminating borders as one is 16:9 and of course the X34 is 21:9 or more cinematic.
Here's about as close as I can get to an eye view using my crappy camera in the dark. Looking closely at the bottom desktop image the glow is slightly visible to the top left and bottom left edge of the Shodan picture (which is the same height as the X34). You can just make out the border of the screen. where the VA panel above is basically evenly black all round (The Shodan image is smaller then the screen size).
Which is to say it's not that bad unless your looking for it but they do vary a bit. I've watched films on both and my preference is more to do with eliminating borders as one is 16:9 and of course the X34 is 21:9 or more cinematic.
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I know, it's very tempting! Do we know what's been fixed in this latest batch?
Some rhetorical questions really but answer them if you like; as I currently have a Dell 3011, will I mourn the loss of 160 vertical pixels, will the IPS glow be better or worse, will I have problems running games at native resolution?
I'm so on the fence about this I should run for the Liberal Democrats.
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This is exactly what I saw on the Dell U3415W, ie bleed on the left. The glow on the right was mild and would disappear if viewed square on where as the bleed on the left wouldn't. The glow didn't really bother me as I was expecting it and it wasn't really visible, the bleed on the left on the other hand was a bit annoying.
I was told by the reseller that if I swapped it out for another panel it would more than likely be same as it would be from the same batch.
But you're making stuff up right now. I had 2x XB270HU's and they were vastly different from eachother in terms of Glow, during same lighting conditions and same position, height and angle. The PG279Q is also different, has much less visible glow at the same conditions but the bottom right is always filling a pretty sizeable portion at the bottom right. And there are plenty of users with none of this bottom right glow at all. (even in a pitchblack room with similar brightness and no underexposure) And no it has nothing to do with "then they must be in a different lighting condition or angle or distance or blabla"
Are you an IPS rep? It sounds like you're very defensive when it comes to IPS and Glow.
I had 2x LG ips277l and the first one had Glow covering the entire screen, minecraft was unplayable entirely during dim/dark conditions.
The second one had only visible Glow at the upper right. So they're not the same. Inbefore "but thats just uniformity"
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Just for reference here's an exaggerated "glow" comparison between IPS & VA. IPS has a general glow plus the 4 points of BLB bleed which apppear to be worse on the left on every pic I've seen posted.
Here's about as close as I can get to an eye view using my crappy camera in the dark. Looking closely at the bottom desktop image the glow is slightly visible to the top left and bottom left edge of the Shodan picture (which is the same height as the X34). You can just make out the border of the screen. where the VA panel above is basically evenly black all round (The Shodan image is smaller then the screen size).
Which is to say it's not that bad unless your looking for it but they do vary a bit. I've watched films on both and my preference is more to do with eliminating borders as one is 16:9 and of course the X34 is 21:9 or more cinematic.
Why do people take photos rather than use Record and screengrab..
OLED has its own issues as well by the sounds of it.
What?