980ti or Fury x?

nashathedog · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:01

horrorwood said:
Maybe you missed this...

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X_Overvoltage/2.html

That's not good news. He shows you he can get it too 144mv and that gives around 4 or 5 fps and then he say's that a safe 24/7 voltage is only around +44mv which just about makes a 2 fps difference. Forget voltage and overclocking it's embarrassing.

The best deal ATM is the standard Fury imho, a good chance of it unlocking atleast partially. You can pick them up for over £100 less than a Fury X too.

This is the way too go, I haven't bothered unlocking mine or manually overclocking it (My Tri-x o/c is at 1040 out the box) as it runs everything I want it too very well plus it's cool and silent while doing it.

The Fury pro's an amazing card, I'll never get why AMD did not let Sapphire etc supply the full Fury chip with air coolers.

JediFragger · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:13

shankly1985 said:
FURYX
Much more quite and cool 50c
Only couple frames per second difference it really isn't that much.
Drivers are sound ignore people here nvidia are just as bad. /fact
HBM is the future once devs start tabbing into this memory for dx12 expect a decent performance boost.
Freesync, if you go this route imo the monitor selection is much better.

980ti
Much more hotter and louder expect 80c + before even overclocking.
Gsync
Not going to mention Gameworks because most can be run on AMD also. But for me Physx is a winner even if games are so far between.
GFE shadowplay amd need to pick up the ball here.
Drivers nvidia have issues also.

I think it should be stated that shanks is a bit of an AMD fanboy

Also m8, you forgot that the Ti has 6GB vRam (which is a BIG plus imo, and swayed me towards it if I'm honest)

Imo the Fury Pro is a damn good card for less than £400 :cool:

nashathedog · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:23

Twincam said:
Yeah still has better drivers than amd by a long shot not perfect but defiantly better. And still runs the so called gimpworks better than amd so there for the lesser gimped.

I disagree with both of these reasons,

AMD's single card drivers are generally very good. Just as good as Nvidia's single card drivers. Both run into issue occasionally but overall I have no reason to complain any more than Nvidia owners do. AMD drivers are let down by AMD being slow to fix things when a fix is needed I can't ignore that but Nvidia have there own issues as well.

As for Gameworks from what I see there just as demanding on one as the other.
My issue with Gameworks isn't how it gimps anyone in particular but with how much of a performance hit it takes for certain visual tweaks that can be done for a lot less.
I mentioned the Stalker games doing the same thing years ago and someone said how Stalker Clear sky took just as big a performance hit then as it does now with Nvidia's way of doing them, So I decided to test that and the sunshafts/ god rays only took 8 fps from a 70 odd fps average while Nvidia's took 30 fps from a 70 odd average. And that was being done 7 years ago. Things are meant to improve. Nvidia are not helping improve things they're trying to lock things down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9148m8wg2t8o2go/Screenshot 2015-11-14 12.12.51.png?dl=0

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:26

JediFragger said:
I think it should be stated that shanks is a bit of an AMD fanboy

Also m8, you forgot that the Ti has 6GB vRam (which is a BIG plus imo, and swayed me towards it if I'm honest)

Imo the Fury Pro is a damn good card for less than £400

And you forget that the 6gb ram the 980ti has is completely different tech and completely inferior. The Fury X has a wider memory bus, too.

I'm running a Fury X and I have never seen any issues from the HBM whatsoever.

And +1 Nash. Since getting my card I have had absolutely zero issues with it. The drivers have been fantastic, even when I upgraded to Windows 10.

shankly1985 · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:30

JediFragger said:
I think it should be stated that shanks is a bit of an AMD fanboy

Also m8, you forgot that the Ti has 6GB vRam (which is a BIG plus imo, and swayed me towards it if I'm honest)

Imo the Fury Pro is a damn good card for less than £400

Am being very fair in my list above

I did forget about Vram but tbh the 4GB hasn't slowed down the FuryX yet has most expected.
£400 is right around I would like to see it It would be hard for me to say no at buying for that price. But in away am happy because for me personally the longer I hang in there for next year the better upgrade.

Am honestly not a Fanboy

I just favor AMD over Nvidia for other reasons not because of the hardware or software. Nvidia have such great tech and I recommend them all the time.. In fact a massive Youtuber a close friend of mine his first PC recommend by me was a 680..
Its personal choice why I wont own Nvidia, something I wont drag this thread into.

setter · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:33

shankly1985 said:
FURYX
Much more quite and cool 50c
Only couple frames per second difference it really isn't that much.
Drivers are sound ignore people here nvidia are just as bad. /fact
HBM is the future once devs start tabbing into this memory for dx12 expect a decent performance boost.
Freesync, if you go this route imo the monitor selection is much better.

980ti
Much more hotter and louder expect 80c + before even overclocking.
Gsync
Not going to mention Gameworks because most can be run on AMD also. But for me Physx is a winner even if games are so far between.
GFE shadowplay amd need to pick up the ball here.
Drivers nvidia have issues also.

Regarding the 980ti temps, it's really only a problem on the reference cards. The aftermarket models are generally around 10c lower at stock fan setting. With a custom profile you can get this much lower again, often in return for very little noise. Id only ever advocate the reference models for those with small cases, sli users with tightly spaced boards and those who will be watercooling where the stock heatsink noise/cooling ability is a moot point.

JediFragger · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:33

Fairy muff

The Fury Pro is a great card for 1440p though, and the new XFX's seem to be bringing a little competition to the table

And agreed Setter, temps on my G1 are fantastic in comparison to reference, which tbh I'd only get if I was water-cooling/AiO'ing

shankly1985 · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:38

Then the price goes £40 over FuryX if you choose G1 OCUK pricing.

Uncle Petey · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:40

shankly1985 said:
980ti
Much more hotter and louder expect 80c + before even overclocking.

Sorry Shanks, that just isn't true unless you're AWPC

Other than that, I pretty much agree with rest

ALXAndy said:
And you forget that the 6gb ram the 980ti has is completely different tech and completely inferior. The Fury X has a wider memory bus, too.
I'm running a Fury X and I have never seen any issues from the HBM whatsoever.

Dat logic.

I've never experienced an issue with GDDR5 whatsoever either.
See how this works?

setter · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:41

Ive seen my msi as low as 55c, albeit that was with the side panels off the case after i had assembled the build in sig. Generally it gets to the mid 60's in game. Using a 1-1 fan profile. Card is basically silent at 80% fan speed. At 100% it's just a gentle whooshing sound.

Parkinson1NX · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:44

Geeman1979 said:
980Ti all day long.

+1

My KFA2 runs almost silent and never exceeds 65c.

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:46

Uncle Petey said:
Dat logic.

I've never experienced an issue with GDDR5 whatsoever either.
See how this works?

Did I say you had?

shankly1985 · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:48

FYI my post towards temps is Reference design. People saying 980ti Cheaper if you go Reference design. Start going this G1 or MSI extra £40 is £40 worth the extra 15fps? plus noise plus heat?

elmuzzy66. · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:54

Don't forget the free game with the 980ti, used to be a big plus point back in the day

Geeman1979 · 15 Nov 2015 at 14:55

shankly1985 said:
FYI my post towards temps is Reference design. People saying 980ti Cheaper if you go Reference design. Start going this G1 or MSI extra £40 is £40 worth the extra 15fps? plus noise plus heat?

No need to use Reference design as a reference as many a Custom cooled 980Ti can be had for a lot cheaper eg!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...graphics-card-n98tv-1sdn-n5hnx-gx-055-in.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-080-kf.html

Uncle Petey · 15 Nov 2015 at 15:10

ALXAndy said:
Did I say you had?

Did anyone say you had a problem with HBM?

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2015 at 15:13

Uncle Petey said:
Did anyone say you had a problem with HBM?

It was being implied, as usual.

"Only 4gb" "Wow look the 980ti has 6gb !" whilst completely forgetting that they are completely different technologies and HBM is superior in every way.

Until some one has actually owned a Fury X and found a problem with HBM they should keep quiet, because the fact is no one ever has managed to cause issues with it only having 4gb VRAM.

The fact is, right now, is that the AMD is actually the faster better card for 4k if you don't overclock. This has been proven. And many people don't overclock, making it the better choice.

LoadsaMoney · 15 Nov 2015 at 15:14

TNA said:
980Ti for sure. The overclocks alone make it the better deal for me. I would say Fury X if in it's current state was sub £400.

By the time they unlock the Fury X to be overclocked properly, 14/16nm cards will be here. lol.

Get the 980Ti, the real overclockers dream

Prime example of how when it comes to AMD the price is relevant, the FX is as fast as the Ti, yet it should be under £400, the similar performing Ti is £500+, but that price is fine, go figure

No wonder AMD havn't got a hope in hell.

whyscotty · 15 Nov 2015 at 15:19

ALXAndy said:
The fact is, right now, is that the AMD is actually the faster better card for 4k if you don't overclock. This has been proven.
And many people don't overclock, making it the better choice.

Actually - there isn't a single GPU card that's truly 4K capable

ALXAndy · 15 Nov 2015 at 15:27

whyscotty said:
Actually - there isn't a single GPU card that's truly 4K capable

I guess it all depends how you look at it, Scotty. You're right in a way, no single card can max out 4k, it's not even close (I would say double the power of the fastest GPUs now and we'd have more to discuss) but that doesn't mean you can't game at 4k on a 980ti or Fury X at all.

The way I see it is you can't rely on SLI, Crossfire, silly wide screen resolutions that no one supports, ETC. All you can do is take the best single GPU you can and give it a go.

I've been playing Fallout 4 on the Fury X and aside from a few juddery moments (and I mean a few, very few) it's been plain sailing at ultra with God Rays set to low.

So if you asked me if I could game at 4k on a Fury X I would say "Why yes, because the sole reason I bought my Fury X was to play Fallout 4 at 4k".

I know there are lots of other games but for the most part I don't play them. I have tried a few though and it wasn't really all that hard to get them playable at 4k (depending on what you define as playable, me? as long as it moves and I can play it I'm happy).

I'm not a fabled "FPS Spotter" and I never ever run frame counters unless I am having serious issues and the game doesn't feel right. If it feels OK and is generally smooth I am happy, regardless of what the FPS meter says.