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980ti or Fury x?
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agreed and that's why I'm confused by the 980ti vs fury X argument. Unless you're going to get a freesync/g sync 4k monitor just forget about it. how much is a g sync 4k monitor and a 980ti going to set you back? you have to go sli or xfire if you want 60FPS and even then you're going to want at least 6GB Vram and even that might not be enough in 1-2 years time.
It's why I'm probably going 390 xfire over both of them even with my freesync monitor
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Probably a good call - enjoy
Then you open a whole new can of worms, Driver problems, Heat, Noise, power usage, a load more **** to contend with.
I started out with a 4k Gsync monitor that was a quite reasonble £499 (but only from here, other places wanted at least £50 more).
Gsync was a nice thing to have at 4k but the problem at that time was the 980ti and Fury X did not exist, so for 4k you absolutely had to run SLI or Crossfire.
Thing is, there were numerous issues with SLI and Gsync, so the only game I really got to experience it in properly was Borderlands 1, which has no Vsync option so naturally Gsync was amazing.
Then when it did work without awful motion flicker it really did help to smooth out the frame differences that you experience at 4k. IE - when it drops from 60 to mid 20s. Sure it was still noticeable, but it was better.
The main thing Gsync and Freesync bring are the (almost) removal of input lag. However, if you Vsync to 60hz with a card that can easily provide at least that (so 1080p Gsync with a 980ti for example) then Gsync would have practically no advantage over Vsync, because you would not suffer input lag.
I decided to back AMD and buy a Fury X over a 980ti. The whole argument that the 980ti is faster is debatable, but for 4k with all of the give and take they are pretty much even. With the new AMD drivers the Fury X at stock comes out slightly better than the 980ti.
However, too many people are fooled by the sorts of comments that pass around on here. "The 980ti is much better and much faster !" - now define "Much". What? 3 FPS faster at 4k? wow, that sure will make a difference !
But yeah, like Scotty says there really is no single GPU that can run 4k properly in every game without fail, like a GTX 980/Titan Black etc at 1080p where you can max the crap out of a game and notice no ills.
It's a fine balance and it's nowhere near perfect, not even with a Titan X.
People need to know this and understand it properly. A mate of mine just dropped a nut on a super widescreen monitor. IIRC he paid about £600 (it's a Dell thing). And he can't play Fallout 4 because it's completely broken and incompatible with the monitor's native res.
Just another case of people saying "OMG just got a super wide screen, will never go back to a normal screen, it's the best, wow, etc".
The reality is that only around 60% of games work natively at these odd resolutions.
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drivers and power usage yes, heat and noise not so much, will just go aftermarket or watercooled if I'm not happy with it. adds to the price but as it's a cheaper option than furyx and 980ti it's kinda a wash
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Aftermarket Air coolers dump to much heat into the case with multiple cards. Watercooling definitely the better option.
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also the dreaded AIO option. have one on my 290x right now and never goes above 57C even with the core at 1200, but think I will go custom loop at some point if the performance is what i'm after.
derailing the thread here but Just trying to say if going 4k a 390 xfire setup should at least be considered alongside the big one card options
21.9 on fallout 4 working wonderfully here...
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28797739&postcount=1961
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28803677&postcount=1970
Yes I had to faff about with the config to get it to work but then I also had to faff about with this broken game to get the correct res with a proper FOV, graphic options applied properly as well as to remove things like mouse acceleration and add a config to get the game to use all 4 cores of my CPU....
More than 60% of games work fine with 21.9 too and for the few that don't, they are easy to fix with far simpler tweaks than what this game requires.
Also, people go with 21.9 monitors for more reasons than just gaming....
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18684417
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28797739&postcount=1961
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28803677&postcount=1970
Yes I had to faff about with the config to get it to work but then I also had to faff about with this broken game to get the correct res with a proper FOV, graphic options applied properly as well as to remove things like mouse acceleration and add a config to get the game to use all 4 cores of my CPU....
More than 60% of games work fine with 21.9 too and for the few that don't, they are easy to fix with far simpler tweaks than what this game requires.
Also, people go with 21.9 monitors for more reasons than just gaming....
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18684417
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the XFX and Sapphire FuryX's are £510... some people might be put off by their warranty, which would mean paying £540 for the MSI FuryX
Non Reference 980ti's start at £490 on OCUK, with the MSI at £540
so if you want to save money and get the cheapest FuryX/non-ref-980ti, the 980ti is £20 cheaper, if you want an MSI card the 980ti is the same price and if you want an Asus card the 980ti is £40 cheaper than the FuryX
Prime example of how when it comes to AMD the price is relevant, the FX is as fast as the Ti, yet it should be under £400, the similar performing Ti is £500+, but that price is fine, go figure
No wonder AMD havn't got a hope in hell.
I disagree. I am happy to pay just as much for AMD as I am for Nvidia graphics cards. But in this particular case, you get 50% extra VRAM, and the ability to overclock by a lot. Also the ability to play at better fps at lower resolutions if you choose to do so. This to me is the reason why I believe the 980Ti is the better card.
If the Fury X with it's fancy cooler could overclock like the 980Ti and keep it cool with it's superior cooling solution, it would be much harder to recommend one over the other if both similar price.
Let us not forget, the 980Ti when I last checked could be had for like £480, so due to the disadvatages I think saying the Fury X should be £400 or under is fair.
By the way, I am not saying the Fury X is a bad card, I actually really like it, but I think it is priced to high. I can't wait to see what the new 14/16nm cards will be like, as usual, I will go with whichever offers best price for performance.
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So the Pip Boy screen and terminals both work perfectly?
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unless you get any of the cards that do 1400+ out of the box, like the matrix, strix, HoF, AmpExtreme etc. etc.
20% faster @60hz means 72FPS for the faster card... I don't know about you but I class 12fps around 60-70fps averages as significant
we all get that you wanted an AIO card and managed to get one cheap 2nd hand off Greg, but the mental gymnastics you do to justify why people should try to copy you at a much higher price is just baffling
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I can confirm yeah. I've not had any terminal issues like some folk - I did quickly realise that you should NEVER try to enter your powersuit from the front because you just keep walking at it instead of around it :/ Only real bug I've come across, and the Powersuit HUD not using the full aspect (you can see faint "border" where the extra pixels kick in - can see it in one of his screenies actually)