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AMD R9 Fury X Leaps Ahead Of Nvidia GTX 980 Ti With The Latest Windows 10 Drivers

Uncle Petey said:
It's pretty much common knowledge that Heaven favours NV.
For what reason, I don't know.
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Yeah, wasn't arguing that.
But how do we know if something doesn't favour one or the other? Just because a leaderboard is mixed rather than all green or all red doesn't mean it doesn't favour one vendor over the other. That would work on the assumption that the 2 vendors are actually fairly even. Maybe they're not, maybe one is actually stronger than the other and any benchmarks that show them as fairly even is actually favouring the weaker vendor.


shankly1985 said:
Probably tesseleation is biggest factor.
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Didn't people try running it with tessellation disabled and found if anything it benefitted Nvidia more?
 
Ok, I guess we know when we have a number of other results in other games/benches that show similar performance between two cards that are known to be roughly the same in comparison with each other.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Yeah, wasn't arguing that.
But how do we know if something doesn't favour one or the other? Just because a leaderboard is mixed rather than all green or all red doesn't mean it doesn't favour one vendor over the other. That would work on the assumption that the 2 vendors are actually fairly even. Maybe they're not, maybe one is actually stronger than the other and any benchmarks that show them as fairly even is actually favouring the weaker vendor.




Didn't people try running it with tessellation disabled and found if anything it benefitted Nvidia more?
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Not sure
 
humbug said:
Valley has always been slanted toward Nvidia anyway, but yes i know they overclock higher, look at the 980TI Lightning in the review, having said that its running at over 1400Mhz. (1075 +25% Lightning performance = 1350Mhz | 7 in 10 scaling = about 1450Mhz) which is getting close to its max overclock.

Fury-X will not be a match for the 980TI even with unlocked volts, but it is much closer now and its probably not far off, certainly not at 4K, if AMD can tweak the drivers some more......

The thing is at 4K the 980TI already has some catching up to do, its not going to take a lot more to make it properly competitive, AMD are pretty good at using drivers to push more performance.
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+1, Surely you knew this already Kaaps?

I can't see there being much difference at all now, watching the benchmarking vids on youtube with the 980Tis, my X has no issues pumping out the same fps in most titles.

Better card at the moment is still the Ti mind you, as a package.
 
My 24/7 OC on my EVGA SC+ 980Ti was 1450 and it works out around 15%-20% faster than my R9 Fury (non X) OC vs OC in Witcher 3.
 
uksoldierboy said:
+1, Surely you knew this already Kaaps?

I can't see there being much difference at all now, watching the benchmarking vids on youtube with the 980Tis, my X has no issues pumping out the same fps in most titles.

Better card at the moment is still the Ti mind you, as a package.
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It is the same old thing with benchmarks, None of us would be able to tell them apart gaming. Only numbers may show a slight difference either way :)
 
uksoldierboy said:
I can't see there being much difference at all now, watching the benchmarking vids on youtube with the 980Tis, my X has no issues pumping out the same fps in most titles.

Better card at the moment is still the Ti mind you, as a package.
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Not sure if that is the case for people that want to get their first high-end monitor with sync teach, as Gsync will still cost around £150 more on average.

Yes people can argue that the price premium for Gsync is justified as it can deliver higher sync range, but the truth is that for that kind of high res, people won't really benefit from extra 25-30Hz unless they are getting two Fury X or two 980Ti instead of one, as the graphic card simply can't push frame rate into the extra Hz range at those res- best case scenerio is that Fury X/980Ti would mostly max out frame rate at around 75fps in the most recent titles on average; and even if graphic card ain't the bottleneck, the CPU will still be and cannot hold 100fps+ constant, at least not until games moved on from dx11 and older.

I mean knowing how frame rate and hardware works, I think it would benefit far more to have extra sync range at the lower end, rather than higher end.

But yea the 980Ti does have the benefit uttering owning every single of AMD's card, so I thinking monitor purchase decision should have a large baring on what cards to go for.
 
Uncle Petey said:
I don't think it's fair to compare a 1575mhz Kingpin to the FX, or use Heaven as the reference tbh.

Sure, an OC'd Ti will pull ahead anyway, but it'd be fairer to use a normal/average OC of say, 1400-1500 as a marker as well as a game/bench that doesn't tend to favour one vendor.
That's if you have to use an OC'd card as a comparison.
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Which bench or game with a built in benchmark is fair to both AMD and NVidia ?

As to comparing an air cooled GTX 980 Ti to a Fury X with a custom waterblock backed up by 3 x 480mm rads using stock volts is a bit unfair yes.:D
 
You should know, Kaap. You run most of the bench threads here :p

Do those fully WC'd Fury X's have noticeably better clocking ability than they do with the provided AIO? Genuine question.
And yeah, it's not fair to compare a card that's specifically designed to be a better clocker than pretty much any other Ti :) Air or not + you also stated that it's cooler is the best.
 
Dicehunter said:
My Xonar STX II keeps having sort of static problems when I fast forward music and has caused a few bluescreens with the words IRQL STXII coming up.

We need some proper drivers from Asus not some half baked ones.
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We have pretty much the same rig and I've never encountered those issues.
Not sure what's going on there tbh.

ED: Sorry, I thought I was replying to subbytna.
 
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