Death/Dying
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Damn should have quoted.
I'm not sure how people can be afraid of something out of your control. Surely its an irrational fear as there's nothing you can actually do about it and its not based on evidence.
if i have you tied to a chair unable to escape, then I pick up a power drill and point to a body part.
you seriously don't think you'd be scared of that drill?
even though there is nothing you can do about it.
lol
"I'm not scared of ants"
"But what if there was a big mega ant 1,000 ft tall that had started eating you, what then hmmmm?!"
I'm not afraid of death, more irritated by it to be honest. I want to live forever and see how the human race progresses. It really annoys me to think that within a few generations we could potentially figure out how our brains work or finally crack the problem of ageing and I'm not going to be around to see it as I was born a couple of hundred years too early.
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This.
Two certainties; death and taxes.
Also; why fear death? It's likely the one thing in life that will happen where you have no idea it's happened. Nobody has ever gone, 'oh no, goodness I've died!', because, well...they're dead.
I don't want to die young, I'd like to have a long, fun and interesting life. But if I were to die now, I likely wouldn't know about it, so it's a bit of a moot point.
It's alright. The thing about nothingness is that you're not around to feel it.
Living forever could be hell in its own right.
Stopping cells from ageing is all well and good, but we would need huge advances in treating mental conditions first.
Personally, I never used to be afraid of death. However, the older I get and more I realise how weak, mortal and ultimately surplus to any requirement I am, the more it scares me.
The idea of pain concerns me. The idea of never achieving anything worthwhile with my life terrifies me. Both are pretty unavoidable.
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It is for the masses. If ageing is cured I highly doubt it'd be available for everyone.
I've seen people die quick and slow unfortunately.. some examples:
Fast - i.e. getting hit by a speeding truck hit & run, skull smashed to pieces and brain spread across the road (thus terminating mental capacity instantly). The guy didn't even see the truck or register the hit.
Slow - i.e. cancer, talking and walking one day, as the days go on they get worse and sent home. Seeing them day on day massive pain, burning up, yellow/green as their bodily functions going nuts and starting to decompose, lapsing in and out of consciousness and finally breathing laboured and passing away.
Between the two - fast where you are unaware, however is more instant shock to people, vs the knowing that someone is going to die for people that know me and knowing inch by inch "just get it over with" would be the thought on my mind..
I would prefer fast but at the same time I wouldn't wish either on people I know but a long process gives them time to adjust (but doesn't ease the pain).
I'm aware that my consciousness started from nothing and will become nothing. The only product of it's existence is it's impact on the world.
My body is built from star matter that just so happens to sat on the planet, when I die that matter goes back to the planet and eventually when the sun destroys the earth (after being recycled many times through many people - including my own life) will eventually become star matter once again.
Fast - i.e. getting hit by a speeding truck hit & run, skull smashed to pieces and brain spread across the road (thus terminating mental capacity instantly). The guy didn't even see the truck or register the hit.
Slow - i.e. cancer, talking and walking one day, as the days go on they get worse and sent home. Seeing them day on day massive pain, burning up, yellow/green as their bodily functions going nuts and starting to decompose, lapsing in and out of consciousness and finally breathing laboured and passing away.
Between the two - fast where you are unaware, however is more instant shock to people, vs the knowing that someone is going to die for people that know me and knowing inch by inch "just get it over with" would be the thought on my mind..
I would prefer fast but at the same time I wouldn't wish either on people I know but a long process gives them time to adjust (but doesn't ease the pain).
I'm aware that my consciousness started from nothing and will become nothing. The only product of it's existence is it's impact on the world.
My body is built from star matter that just so happens to sat on the planet, when I die that matter goes back to the planet and eventually when the sun destroys the earth (after being recycled many times through many people - including my own life) will eventually become star matter once again.
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People would die of disease, ill health by their lifestyles and killing each other in the name of something.
Given that women are born with their mass of eggs, then stopping ageing does not change this. If people don't age then you could argue you don't need this, but without children the human race needs to understand how to engage in the universe with no particular role. It's like people that haven't got kids (me here) that are surrounded by peer groups with families. They're (rightly) consumed by teaching and raising their kids - what do people do without.. sit there? do nothing? just work? the extended life means people would look at the end result (knowing the bank balances will increase over time)..
The economic effect of a static population would be interesting.. do you pay someone until the end of time for a role.. how do you create new customers? ... the list goes on.. and I think that economic drivers would be replaced by focus on longer term issues like sorting out getting off the planet and solving environmental issues.. because you're now going to live except when the world cannot support life!
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At that point it's fine to be scared of it. There's no point in me spending the rest of my years fearful of the day that tefal will kidnap me for his snuff movie. I get the impression I'd never see it coming
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