ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Syria has a reasonable tech and industrial base, certainly it's no worse than Hamas in Gaza...

Consider for a moment that even Hamas can make weapons that are aerodynamic and have some basic form of guidance.

It is not exactly rocket science, or technically hard to make reasonably accurate "dumb" bombs, you can turn the outer casings out with basic machine tools, or castings if you're really low tech (wax loss casting has been around since the middle ages at least).

The main reason for the barrel bombs is to drop a large, indiscriminate device on civilians, it's not ever going to be useful against military targets because the military (or even just reasonably prepared rebels with access to old gear) will be able to statistically avoid them, even if you use the chlorine gas type stuff Assad is putting in them.

They're a terror weapon for use against civilian targets, nothing more, nothing less.
 
Classy work channel 4, I'm not sure there was any need to show a photograph of the inside of the theatre in Paris showing dead bodies all over the floor,
 
dowie said:
^ heads in sand




(program made by moderate muslim women)
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"Head in sand" because I don't want to watch something that is pot stirring and has no new information at all? Ok chum.

FYI I'll be skipping the next episode of Jeremy Kyle as well. I must so deep in the sand only my toes are sticking out.
 
sven256 said:
Why are you posting a picture of a barrel bomb? When i clearly know what one is.

And i quote again

"The average CEP in 1943 was 370 metres (1,200 ft), meaning that only 16% of the bombs fell within 300 metres (1,000 ft) of the aiming point." During world war 2. I would guess (yes guess) these are equally as accurate.

Yes I have seen that video years ago and its no more than around 8000 feet up.

The simple fact is people claiming they are as good as indiscriminate bombing then as good as claiming we would never do that. This is total bull.

They are in a war with Wahhabi fundamentalists with very little funding. What would you do?

It's all well and good sitting in your nice warm room, behind your monitor saying I would do this and this then drop bombs worth millions each on them which are accurate within meters. They simply don't have the funding or resources to do this.

If they were so bad then they would cut funding for the areas they do not control and the power would soon disappear food would totally dry up etc. But as far as i know they are still paying people wages in areas not in their control.
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They weren't wahabi to start with... Just normal sunnis ruled by a elite of minority shias. They've been massacred in the thousands, raped, terrorised you name it.

Was a legitimate jihad until isis rolled in.
 
B&W said:
They weren't wahabi to start with... Just normal sunnis ruled by a elite of minority shias. They've been massacred in the thousands, raped, terrorised you name it.

Was a legitimate jihad until isis rolled in.
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There were plenty of hard line Sunni groups in Syria before ISIS Just not in the same league of manpower as ISIS.

ISIS are just the tip of the iceberg of the hard-line groups over there.

Is that any different than what happened in Iraq then? Sunni minority ruling and attacking shiite majority. And now the Sunni minority are spitting their dummies out.
 
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sven256 said:
There were plenty of hard line Sunni groups in Syria before ISIS Just not in the same league of manpower as ISIS.

ISIS are just the tip of the iceberg of the hard-line groups over there.

Is that any different than what happened in Iraq then? Sunni minority attacking shiite majority. And now the Sunni minority are spitting their dummies out.
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Yes there are other groups but they weren''t miracled one day into creation by the good Lord.

The fsa eventually disintegrated due to its corruption and in fighting , it's leadership was partying in Europe...

The jihadis weren't as corrupt and proved reliable on the battlefield, fighters flocked to them. Can't blame the Syrian people for joining them apart from isis I guess.
 
It's not surprising it's happened given how Russia has repeatedly been violating Turkish airspace for months now.
You'd have thought that they would have been more careful after the Turkish military shot down their drone a few weeks back.

This is assuming that it was in Turkish airspace, but I suspect given the area there would have been a lot of attention on the airspace and border from other governments.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
"Head in sand" because I don't want to watch something that is pot stirring and has no new information at all? Ok chum.

FYI I'll be skipping the next episode of Jeremy Kyle as well. I must so deep in the sand only my toes are sticking out.
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So you knew they were little groups of "sisters" having little meetings denouncing the west and jews ("filthy jews" i believe was the term used) and praising people going to fight ISIS?

Can't say I did, not that it has changed my opinion on anything, It was all rather predictable and what Id come to expect from these types of people.
 
And what do you do about it? Deport 44 million people? Rofl there is nothing anyone can do the people who tried to get into Turkey are back on the streets of Britain. Instead of deporting them our leaders would rather take away all our rights and use millions and millions to instead spy on them. I am going to die of facepalm tbh. 44 million and counting and nothing anyone can do lolol.

The little sistas are pretty much going to be treated with kid gloves.
 
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