Lobby your Mp to stand against wasting tax money bombing Syria

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So what is this non violent solution?

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Whilst I want to see ISIS wiped off the planet, there's no way I would support the mindless bombing of innocent civilians in the process.

The US, its allies and even russia have joined the bombing queue - What has that achieved? yup, absolutely nothing bearing in mind the cost in both weapons and human lives.

Bombing is the only answer for those nutcases who think making a profit from war is a good thing. Otherwise it achieves nothing other than playing into the terrorists hands by giving them the evidence they need to garner further support.

Petition signed, thanks.
 
Weren't the 7/7 and Paris bombers all UK born claiming it was for our military attacks in the Middle East?

Paris are living in fear everyday from terrorism, something I really do not want our country to suffer. We can bomb Syria/Iraq all we want but its the home grown ones we have to worry about, which unless you want to start an ethnic cleansing, isn't going to help.

Fight the source and stop countries arming and funding them in the first place.
 
I don't think you would think like that. As you would probably know multiple people beheaded or otherwise killed by them. There recruitment is massively overrated.

And to cut their finances means bombings, which everyone needs to play a roll in.

Hmm there is that aspect too. It's impossible to imagine I've had such a cushy life in comparison and I just can't relate to it so I can't really say for sure.

Cut their finances to me would be working out who's paying for the oil/selling them weapons/ammo and prosecute them. Bombing would be limited to the oil trucks and any camps we could safely target hopefully without civilian casualties.

Wonder how they store their money if it's all cash or they have banking. If it's the latter then a hefty investigation and punitive fines to those enabling them.
 
When did Syria bomb London and why do you think that bombing Syria would prevent anything like that from happening?

Think he's confused the London attacks with ISIS.

Saudi Arabia are the main financier of ISIS, yet Western politicians seem reluctant to do anything about it. We all know why. :(
 
Think he's confused the London attacks with ISIS.

Saudi Arabia are the main financier of ISIS, yet Western politicians seem reluctant to do anything about it. We all know why. :(

Are they? - yet to see this proof that people often neglect to provide. There's more proof out there that the american's are financing ISIS than there is about Saudi.

(and no your POV doesn't count as evidence - lets see the ACTUAL evidence)

If it was both the US and UK would say so and be pressuring them to conform.
 
Whos suggesting the mindless bombing of innocent civilians?

What else do you think happens when you drop bombs in civilian areas? No amount of 'technology' stops innocent people being killed.

Still amazes me that we live in the 21st century and the first answer to solving a problem is to 'bomb them all to hell"

What an awesome leader we have in power. Thinks he can provide an answer by performing the same action others have for the past two years and havn't got anywhere. At least learn from other peoples mistakes if we can't learn from our own (i.e. Iraq / afghanistan etc)
 
At the end of the day if we sit and watch isis get bigger and stronger then only we can be to blame. All the allied countries have to unite to rid the world of this terrorist group.
 
If more air sorties were going to be decisive against IS then the US and France would increased their involvement months ago.

Air power alone is not going to change the situation in Syria.
 
So what is this non violent solution?

That is actually a semi serious question, seen plenty of calls to stop bombings but not a single alternative been presented.

You say this as though violence IS somehow a solution. It's not. We learned that the hard way in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Don't be silly, there isn't a counter argument. This is just about opposing the Tories on something, and nothing to do with Syria.

Pretty much my thinking, only problem is that there doesn't appear to be much strategy in the military solution either, at least not on the "allies" front.

They want to destroy ISIS, don't want Assad in power and I'm not even sure what the situation on the ground is in terms of allegiances of various "moderate" insurgency forces. You also want to do it all from the air without ability to bomb some of the major strongholds due to civilian population being used as a shield. You also assuming that once ISIS and then Assad are magically gone then all these various groups including Kurds, al-Nusra, Turkmen tribes, Hezbollah, number of once again "moderate" insurgency groups will unite and form a new peaceful Syria.

All of this will happen and of course this will become the new model democratic nation in the Middle East as democracy has proved so successful after the Arab Spring in the region.

Of course the willy nilly "wish upon a star" strategy has failed in the country where the war has been going on for over four and a half years at this point leaving a huge vacuum to fill for whoever frankly wants to have an interest and no less than Russia now. This has fallen right into their hands in the times of need when one needs to cover up the conflict in Ukraine along with the flailing economic situation at home.

So now you have the same strategy as above except you also don't want to work with Russia who is winning cookie points left right and centre, particularly after Paris attacks.
 
Are they? - yet to see this proof that people often neglect to provide.

Plenty of evidence if you are willing to look.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ke-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

...substantial and sustained funding from private donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to which the authorities may have turned a blind eye, has played a central role in the Isis surge into Sunni areas of Iraq.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...y-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html

Qatar and Saudi Arabia have ignited a "time bomb" by funding the global spread of radical Islam, according to a former commander of British forces in Iraq.


General Jonathan Shaw, who retired as Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff in 2012, told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia were primarily responsible for the rise of the extremist Islam that inspires Isil terrorists.
 
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