Stuck behind tractors and farm machinery

Not really. Lorries have a difficult time overtaking. Get a tractor lorry combo and you're stuffed.

Never seemed to notice that. As long as there is an ok bit of road I've been passed by two at once before no problem. 23mph really shouldn't be an issue for anything to overtake.
 
Never seemed to notice that. As long as there is an ok bit of road I've been passed by two at once before no problem. 23mph really shouldn't be an issue for anything to overtake.

If you have a stream of traffic/central reservations coming the other way then it is a difficulty for them to pass as their acceleration isn't up to scratch so they need a much bigger gap. I see this on my commute everyday being in the fens and living close to many lorry depots.
 
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Prime example was Thursday evening, about 5:20PM on said A-road, long straight section of road with no junctions. There are actually broken hatched markings down the centre of the road which are more than big enough to fit anything other than a bus/lorry in for an overtake with oncomming traffic still safe. However, the people immediately behind the tractor still refused to overtake, even with no oncomming traffic. I was about 20 cars back as it is and there was easily another 20 behind me.

The broken hatched lines are normally used for overflow on filter lanes so people might not use them as it might give other motorist the wrong idea that they want to turn right not over take. Or if a car actually does want to turn right (but doesn't want to wait till the hatch has finished then suddenly the car behind thinks "oh this persons overtaking. I'll step on it as well" and rear ends the guy who just wants to turn right.

http://www.drivingtesttips.biz/hatched-road-markings.html

At the end of the day everyone will get come quicker if anyone just acts mature. Rather take 15 mins sitting in a line of cars following a tractor than someone doing something stupid and causing an injury/death. As that'll close the road and it'll be a 20 mile diversion back the other way. Be safe not sorry.
 
And your point is what?

That your car that weighs the same as a shoe box can accelerate quicker than a 2000kg underpowered 2.5ltr 4x4. :D

Yep! Standard issue Pajero (If it is an old one) is around 90BHP.

The later versions of the 2.5 diesel were boosted up to about 130BHP but they took a severe reliability hit achieving this. BEB failure is almost routine on the higher power versions.
 
[TW]Fox;28935064 said:
You don't think cars who fail to maintain a safe following distance are driven by morons?

They are but on the moron scale the guy I observed recently on the A47 in his 5 series who thought he'd actually get anywhere by overtaking cars at what must have been nudging 90 then slamming his brakes on (enough that every time the brake lights strobed) to dive into non existent gaps at the last second when cars were coming the other way had them beat in the dip stick stakes.

It is frustrating, especially where I live as many of our main routes into the county are single carriage way but more than a few cars between you and the tractor and you just have to accept that trying to pass is going to be a pretty risky and stupid manoeuvre.
 
[TW]Fox;28934948 said:
The problem here isn't the tractors - they have a job to do - but the morons who sit behind them with no ability to overtake and the succession of morons behind them who leave no gap between them and the car in front.

So by the time Pepsilol arrives at the back of the queue in his V12 he no longer has a tractor to overtake, but a tractor and a queue of 20 nose to tail morons. He can't even do it in stages because everyone is 1 foot from the car in front.

omg so much this!
 
Whilst this is not strictly a farm vehicle issue, it is a situation that often involves farm vehicles.

The one that gets me is single track roads with passing places.

I see a vehicle coming the other way and tuck into a passing space only to find that the driver immediately behind me has nowhere to go and is still blocking the road for the oncoming vehicle.

I think I must be the only person on the planet who thinks to keep at least one passing space back from any vehicle that I am following along such a road rather than following closely!
 
[TW]Fox;28934948 said:
So by the time Pepsilol arrives at the back of the queue in his V12 he no longer has a tractor to overtake, but a tractor and a queue of 20 nose to tail morons. He can't even do it in stages because everyone is 1 foot from the car in front.

One of the greatest pleasures of owning a 180hp motorcycle is effortlessly passing the whole queue mentioned above :p :D
 
Whilst this is not strictly a farm vehicle issue, it is a situation that often involves farm vehicles.

The one that gets me is single track roads with passing places.

I see a vehicle coming the other way and tuck into a passing space only to find that the driver immediately behind me has nowhere to go and is still blocking the road for the oncoming vehicle.

I think I must be the only person on the planet who thinks to keep at least one passing space back from any vehicle that I am following along such a road rather than following closely!

Sometimes the passing places are too infrequent to do this but it does seem that the vision of some drivers stops at the rear bumper of the car infront.

My favourite is when they have a passing place 10 yards behind them and yours is 200 yards back and the person just sits there stopped dead in the middle of the road staring straight through you.
 
[TW]Fox;28934948 said:
The problem here isn't the tractors - they have a job to do - but the morons who sit behind them with no ability to overtake and the succession of morons behind them who leave no gap between them and the car in front.

So by the time Pepsilol arrives at the back of the queue in his V12 he no longer has a tractor to overtake, but a tractor and a queue of 20 nose to tail morons. He can't even do it in stages because everyone is 1 foot from the car in front.

/end thread.
 
The root cause is, UK Highway engineering still belongs in the mid-20th century with single carriageway A-roads that have no shoulders and high banked sides/hedgerows which inhibit clear line of sight at bends.

The A(4)361 from Swindon to Avebury is a classic example of a difficult road in respect of the OP. Large quantity of agricultural traffic in season often travelling some distance. Few straight sections, limited visibility and no shoulders or lay-bys for the tractor to pull over. If I'm following a tractor and see an opportunity to overtake will go for it (kickdown on automatic is a great help) but safety of myself, passenger and other road users is still my first responsibility. You can get over a bit of frustration, bit harder with a case of death.

And in response to the comment about those at the front of the queue not pulling out, not uncommon for the boy racers several places back in the queue to pull out and tear past without actually giving those at the head of the queue (who might not have such a clear view of the oncoming conditions) a chance.

Ultimately if you can't drive safely, patiently, lawfully and if need be put a few minutes on your journey then do everyone else a favour and hand in your driver's licence...
 
Gets abit annoying at times but the older farmers round here have a habit of either pulling over or moving into a layby to let cars pass them.

I tend to find it's the 'younger' farmers who stick it in the middle of a road so you can't pass even if you wanted.
 
I love having a really fast car (from what I can remember :() as you can overtake 10's of cars to the various flashings of oncoming cars who are shouting "you idiot, you'll never ake that" only to see you pull in 50 yards from them and then whoosh pass at 150mph with a rooster tail of dust. Ah those were the days.
 
[TW]Fox;28934948 said:
The problem here isn't the tractors - they have a job to do - but the morons who sit behind them with no ability to overtake and the succession of morons behind them who leave no gap between them and the car in front.

So by the time Pepsilol arrives at the back of the queue in his V12 he no longer has a tractor to overtake, but a tractor and a queue of 20 nose to tail morons. He can't even do it in stages because everyone is 1 foot from the car in front.

This, a million times this, don't think I've ever got annoyed at a tractor driver. However the people connected to each others bumpers behind him receive my middle finger salute very frequently....:mad:
 
As long as you pull over every 30 seconds to let traffic by I dont mind you on the road. Otherwise use the fields.

Also as above the old farts who are happy to follow tractors and the like need removing from the road.

I don't see how I could pull in "every 30 seconds" it's really complicated when pulling in with a tractor as I have to judge whether I can fit or if I have to keep on driving.
And not all fields are connected... And I can't just drive across neighboring farmers fields to get to mine that are a couple miles away...
 
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