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+1 for the Myrmidon for level 2/3 missions lots of drones and rail fit it with armor tank.
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Myrmidon is quite a decent ship for that kind of thing now you can stick a medium micro jump drive on it - and if you don't care too much about the cost the mids mean you can make a couple of geckos tear through anything small while minimal time to target with the speed bonus plus their native speed and maybe a drone speed rig or mod.
Everyone starts from nothing. Although a lot more content and leg ups as a new player these days.. Played eve for past 10 years and still have loads of fun. New command destroyers are fun to fly. Dragging people off stations and gates
A single Gecko costs more than a fully fit Myrmidon! If he's running level 2 missions I doubt he's got that sort of isk lying around
I suspect prices have gone up a bit since I used em as they are limited supply :S
But he also mentioned wanting to get through L2-3s as quickly as possible - and not much BBQs the small stuff in L2-3s without much SP like Geckos with a couple of tracking mods heh - used to do it with one of my low skills alts and they'd 1 hit the frigs most volleys with practically no drone skills.
Everyone starts from nothing. Although a lot more content and leg ups as a new player these days.. Played eve for past 10 years and still have loads of fun. New command destroyers are fun to fly. Dragging people off stations and gates
Haven't actually seen it in application but I can see that feature being an effective tool if not carefully implemented to grief players who take the game more seriously into quitting - who are the players who've been propping the game up not the transient flavour of the month players who that kind of gimmick would appeal to the most.
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Well this is how out of date I am - I guess this is total overkill for level 2s but should steam through them without any problems whatsoever?
I've selected medium and light drones, can't use T2 yet (and not working on it), picked the types I remember as being most effective but will tweak to get the right damage for Gallente missions.
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Damage Control II
[empty low slot]
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Tracking Speed Script
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
Valkyrie I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Always open to suggestions and I see I have an empty low slot.
Is it worth going to Jita to buy everything? Is it still the centre and therefore the cheapest market place?
I've selected medium and light drones, can't use T2 yet (and not working on it), picked the types I remember as being most effective but will tweak to get the right damage for Gallente missions.
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Damage Control II
[empty low slot]
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Tracking Speed Script
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge M
Valkyrie I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Always open to suggestions and I see I have an empty low slot.
Is it worth going to Jita to buy everything? Is it still the centre and therefore the cheapest market place?
See how you do tank wise and it might be worth dropping some of the cap rechargers in the mid for drone tracking mods and/or some of the lows for drone damage mods. Not sure how useful it would be for lower level missions but having a medium micro jump (not MWD) in the mid can be useful for blinking those 100km distances as well.
Think on my fit I dropped one of the railguns for a drone link aug as well for extra range.
Think on my fit I dropped one of the railguns for a drone link aug as well for extra range.
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I made my first venture into a wormhole last night to do some data and relic sites in my probing heron. Scanned down a data site and promptly got blown up by the NPC tower despite warping in at 70 clicks. I'm guessing doing this type of thing in a covert op is preferable as I would have arrived cloaked and thus not died?
Cloaky or Zephyr (sleepers don't target them but I think some non sleeper stuff does) but cloaky better as you are harder to catch by other players. Even then there are 1-2 sites in wormholes where warping in from some angles at 50-100km will land you on stuff that decloaks so you have to be on the ball.
In proper fullscreen mode I've had a single client running on a quad core atom tablet at 30+fps low settings with only a little slowdown on changing systems/landing on grid with a big fleet -
EDIT: Quite a bit of that slowdown was due to running the game off an SD card as that tablet limits SD card performance to 19MB/s
off the internal memory or a tablet which can run the SD Card at proper speeds there would be less slowdown around gates, etc.
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For every single PvE activity I would recomend shiled tanking i.e.
[Myrmidon, Mission Passive Shield]
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Garde II x4
Put that fit in pyfa or eft and you will see the difference in tank and dps.
If you really want to use armor, instead of second nano put 1600mm plate, remove hardener and add 2x DDA (if you dont have decent drone skills there is really no point to use myrmi for rails imho) Trimark pump in rig slot - at least one. Off course u can use rails as well on shiled fit but majority of dps will come from drones.
^^ For L2-3 missions you only need to tank what 300dps or so for any length of time? which is easily doable with armour these days - a couple of drone tracking mods in the mids can really speed up your damage application which hinders a shield tank. I do like passive shield tanks for being able to save your ass if you have to go suddenly afk, etc. though.
Myrm has no turret damage bonuses so using off racial guns isn't a problem.
Myrm has no turret damage bonuses so using off racial guns isn't a problem.
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Depending on your drone skills, would it be worth dropping a arty cannon and picking up a tec2 drone link?
Especially with lower skills (not sure if they've changed it but the last few kms of drone control range used to be quite skill intensive) it can be worth it. IIRC I was working towards something like this on an alt before I kicked the game in:
[Myrmidon, pvetest]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
10MN Afterburner II
Medium Micro Jump Drive
Cap Recharger II
Drone Link Augmentor II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Garde II x4
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
If you are comfortable with the cap lifetime/repair amount can drop the recharger for another drone mod or a target painter and likewise swap one of the rigs depending on taste i.e. for more cap lifetime or better damage application. (Personally I had a couple of geckos in there instead of the sentries as they were just plain nasty for killing stuff and fast to get on target as well - but they were like 8m a pop at the time not sure what they are now).
Absolutely, this is quite universal fit, not just for lvl 2-3missions, you can put probes and scan some deds (up to 4/10 it works well), do anomalies in hi-sec, salvager could be fitted if needed as well.
Credit should go to eve uni - check this link http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Myrmidon
Good example of armor tank section you can see in WH solo fit.
Myrmidon with good drone skills it's an excellent boat in my humble opinion for all sorts of PvE activity...and not very expensive!
I used to run level 3 and could even do some of the easier level 4 mission in my armour Myrm. This was a few years ago, however.
If you have good drone skills, don't bother with guns, barring a small laser to draw agro. 3x cap recharger II (Dark Blood, if you can get them), AB, Omni in the mids.
Dual armour rep (one set to repeat and one set to pulse), EANM, Drone Damage Amp, 2x mission specific hardeners.
You can keep one rep going constantly and pulse the other for a few cycles, if you need a boost. With decent armour skill, it tanks like crazy.
As I said, this was a few years ago, so someone may want to run the stats through EVEMon or whatever the cool kids are using these days.
If you have good drone skills, don't bother with guns, barring a small laser to draw agro. 3x cap recharger II (Dark Blood, if you can get them), AB, Omni in the mids.
Dual armour rep (one set to repeat and one set to pulse), EANM, Drone Damage Amp, 2x mission specific hardeners.
You can keep one rep going constantly and pulse the other for a few cycles, if you need a boost. With decent armour skill, it tanks like crazy.
As I said, this was a few years ago, so someone may want to run the stats through EVEMon or whatever the cool kids are using these days.
Geckos are around 78m each now.
People are grumbling about the Command Destroyers, but not too much. They're not insanely overpowered, they don't move people with invuln timers so if you undock and are surrounded you can redock fine. It makes station fighting a little less lame. Personally I have no issues with bitter vets quitting the game because some new ships are fun and all they want to do is sit in a pos with their drones raping anything on a gate elsewhere in the system....
Cheaper for some stuff but you can get bargains elsewhere. Potential issue is the time you spend flying there you could have earnt the money that you just saved!
Standard WH Data/Relic sites have NPCs that will happily blow the crap out of you. If it's the pirate ones they'll not have anything like in empire though. Don't expect to be able to do WH Data/Relic sites any easier than the WH combat sites
Uuuurgh don't put faction stuff like that on a Myrmidon. 3 Faction rechargers are worth more than the price of the hull and will be pretty minimal benefit over just using a T2 one. Better ways to improve the ship than that.
TBH any fit on a Myrm will be fine for L2 missions, L3 will just require some level of consistent fit - whether that be Shield or Armour. Just fly what is interesting at that level imo.