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San Barnardino was a set up too, story doesn't make sense. SUV have windows shot out from inside even though media said they rolled down windows. Male suspect body changes position several times even though he meant to be shot dead? Also Muslim Lady has shorts on in the aerial shot?

You aren't mistaking her head scarf for legs? I don't recall an aerial shot that showed her clearly.
 
. Don't terrorist kill civilians though? Isn't that what is meant to make them scary? Terrorism has just completely changed meaning over the last few decades. This is what terrorism used to be http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/12/newsid_2514000/2514929.stm no dead hostages, women and children freed. The 2 that were trying to get the truth out are both dead. There are plenty of vidos on youtube trying to get to the bottom of it.

San Barnardino was a set up too, story doesn't make sense. SUV have windows shot out from inside even though media said they rolled down windows. Male suspect body changes position several times even though he meant to be shot dead? Also Muslim Lady has shorts on in the aerial shot?

I don't think they care all too much who they target but I imagine the result of targeting uniforms increases the resistance from public services increasing their ability to shout about persecution.

Can't Muslim women wear shorts? I don't remember seeing anything stated about the Windows but the live video it was pretty obliterated.

You aren't mistaking her head scarf for legs? I don't recall an aerial shot that showed her clearly.


I think she needs to get her ears looked at if that's the case :eek:.
 
You aren't mistaking her head scarf for legs? I don't recall an aerial shot that showed her clearly.


They showed a picture of her in a Hijab (photoshopped) and in an unveiled Burka. Not very modest to wear shorts now is it? They can't even get muslims right. It's like Charlie Hebdo when they showed "the muslim terrorist" raising his left hand to Allah, which is a sin and after he said "I have avenged the Prophet Muhammad" he forgot to say Peace Be upon Him which is what you have to do, you are conditioned to say it. But the terrorists always make their intentions clear and there are people around to film it or "relay" that information. They also go on twitter and ask other people how and where to bomb......

DHS admitted they did a drill several months before hand with backpack bombers. Guess it was coincidence that Craft security were in Boston again with backpacks (there's pictures) They aren't even hiding it lol
 
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Wouldn't base too much on that image - she is in a completely different position to when they first opened the vehicle with a lot of stuff pulled out around her given the potential threat of explosives and how gingerly they approached the vehicle there could be a lot of explanations i.e. even using a robot to remove clothing to make sure there wasn't a bomb vest, etc. hidden underneath as just one example.
 

They showed a picture of her in a Hijab (photoshopped) and in an unveiled Burka. Not very modest to wear shorts now is it?

you think it may just be possible that they pulled her hijab thing up to see if she had any explosives strapped to her or check for any other weapons on her body.
 
Wouldn't base too much on that image - she is in a completely different position to when they first opened the vehicle with a lot of stuff pulled out around her given the potential threat of explosives and how gingerly they approached the vehicle there could be a lot of explanations i.e. even using a robot to remove clothing to make sure there wasn't a bomb vest, etc. hidden underneath as just one example.

And where's the blood between the first and 2nd position? What about the 3rd suspect that witnesses and reporters talked about? That's ok, the media went into the house to show the public all the muslim stuff including the shredded paper which should be evidence....
 
you think it may just be possible that they pulled her hijab thing up to see if she had any explosives strapped to her or check for any other weapons on her body.

So she wore a Hijab/Burka and assault gear? Their lawyer said she only weighed 90 pounds and he's confused how someone like her could pull it off. Eye-witness on CBS said it was 3 men dressed in all black military attire and another said there was a drill going on.
 
She said the bullet came into her thigh and went out the other side. With an ak47 that's a lot of damage. She should still be in hospital, not laughing and stuff and saying the event felt "strangely logical" wtf does that mean? On the banner of the website 60 minutes, she's standing for a photo like nothing touched her. There have been other crisis actors who have actually been traced back to their respective acting schools and people find their other tv/movie work. During Charlie Hebdo, CNN reported the officer on the ground being shot and killed by the jihadist but if you look at the uncensored version the bullet doesn't even touch him, just a puff of dust next to his head. No brain matter, no blood. CNN also clearly use green screen to pretend they are at events

You may call me a kook all you want but until I see bullet ridden bloody bodies, I ain't buying. Ain't buying all the fake vigils and flower shows.

i have seen pictures of dead bodies in the Bataclan.
 
And where's the blood between the first and 2nd position? What about the 3rd suspect that witnesses and reporters talked about? That's ok, the media went into the house to show the public all the muslim stuff including the shredded paper which should be evidence....

Despite the depiction in movies gunshot wounds don't necessarily entail significant loss of blood externally (depends on where and how they hit and other factors) - same as often bullets will go through panes of glass leaving holes but not shattering the whole pane as people expect.

So she wore a Hijab/Burka and assault gear? Their lawyer said she only weighed 90 pounds and he's confused how someone like her could pull it off. Eye-witness on CBS said it was 3 men dressed in all black military attire and another said there was a drill going on.

Eye witnesses in those kind of scenarios are notoriously unreliable. I don't buy the other bit - I used to play airsoft a fair bit where often the weapons and equipment are ball park similar weight to an AR-15 (2-3kg) and there would be kids running around in full gear without any problems.
 
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So she wore a Hijab/Burka and assault gear? Their lawyer said she only weighed 90 pounds and he's confused how someone like her could pull it off. Eye-witness on CBS said it was 3 men dressed in all black military attire and another said there was a drill going on.

im just looking at the pic from the link you posted, it looks like a hijab pulled up exposing shorts and back of a bra.
lets not pretend witnesses do not make mistakes..ufo sightings ?
 
i have seen pictures of dead bodies in the Bataclan.

I've seen them too, well one. Link me the ones you've seen. Cos the one I've seen has drag marks in blood but no hand prints, little blood on steps even though that is where they were supposedly dragging them, people in black robes standing in the background on the mezzanine. No blood on the actual bodies but conveniently placed around the smears. No cups or bottles of alcohol? Thought it was a rock concert. Also this pic is a complete photoshop https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/ad188165774exclusive-minimu.jpg. They even used a stipple filter to hide the cut lines lol, download it and look at the properties, date taken etc.

im just looking at the pic from the link you posted, it looks like a hijab pulled up exposing shorts and back of a bra.
lets not pretend witnesses do not make mistakes..ufo sightings ?

So was she wearing assault gear on top or under the Hijab? Okay if you say so about the witnesses, discount the witness cos they might be crazy and they don't fit the script.
 
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They even used a stipple filter to hide the cut lines lol, download it and look at the properties, date taken etc.

Metadata is proof of nothing - I usually strip most of it from mine as a matter of course even when not making significant edits and/or random data gets inserted by software inbetween i.e. in this case advertising and copyright licensing data has been inserted into the image.

The stippling effect granted is a bit strange as it doesn't follow the patterns normal of a CCD type sensor struggling with low light conditions but that isn't evidence of anything on its own any editing could just be for instance from putting together a wide angle shot like that using multiple frames.

Please tell me that nobody is taking this **** seriously.

I'll entertain it but sadly most of these conspiracy theories don't even make it past 2 minutes of simple googling.
 
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So was she wearing assault gear on top or under the Hijab? Okay if you say so about the witnesses, discount the witness cos they might be crazy and they don't fit the script.

im guessing ontop which would make her look more flat chested and maybe thats why she got mistaken for a guy.

there is a black something to the left of her which looks like a vest. maybe they removed it when searching her. Does it even matter ?

you have one witness saying 3 guys were shooting the place up.

one witness saying it was a drill.

and you have an actual picture showing a women with black clothing (probably hijab) pulled up exposing shorts lay dead on the floor yet you discount the picture and go 50/50 with with the first 2.

if anything it should tell you eye witnesses arent reliable.
 
Metadata is proof of nothing - I usually strip most of it from mine as a matter of course even when not making significant edits and/or random data gets inserted by software inbetween i.e. in this case advertising and copyright licensing data has been inserted into the image.
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Do you change the date when you strip out metadata?


So a 90 pound woman with a hijab on can be mistaken for a man? Also what the heck is that giant pool of blood next to the man? How did that get there? Cos the ariel shot doesn't show it. My guess is they were patsys or those are cadavers or dummies. Not the first time lol
 
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Do you change the date when you strip out metadata?

My point being without chain of custody - you have no idea if or why that data might have been changed - its not unusual for images to be formatted for use online without any real editing and its not unusual for software to change metadata which potentially could include adjustment of dates i.e. a beta version of one image editing package I've used would always write out exported images with hardcoded default metadata until later revisions of the program.
 
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