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But give that most people have mobile phones and access to social media, you can almost watch these events in real time yourself.

Where do the actors come from, why would they be a part of the conspiracy and if they were tricked into it, why don;t they come out and say so?

Because the actors are from the secret illuminati cloning pool. Once they're finished with they're disintegrated and fed back to the new clones in preparation for the next attack orchestrated by the Israelites.

Duh :rolleyes:.
 
But give that most people have mobile phones and access to social media, you can almost watch these events in real time yourself.

Where do the actors come from, why would they be a part of the conspiracy and if they were tricked into it, why don;t they come out and say so?

There is footage on mobile phone from inside the stadium on youtube but the thing happened outside where the media will tell you whatever. Emma Parkinson got 200 grand out of it for her "story". The other actors running around probs got 10-30 grand. One of the other actors Ginnie Watson, took her youtube channel cos people were accusing her of fraud. You can find her other work, she had 2 different stories for her interviews too. The band got paid the most I'm betting, they said they sold their soul to the devil back in California. They probably do want to speak out but people who speak out end up dead like Terrance Yeakey from Oklahoma 1995
and that pilot who wrote 2 books on uncovering 9/11 but ended up dead in a murder suicide with his 2 kids and dog.

Because the actors are from the secret illuminati cloning pool. Once they're finished with they're disintegrated and fed back to the new clones in preparation for the next attack orchestrated by the Israelites.

Duh :rolleyes:.

Well all this fighting in the middle east does benefit Israel the most. The PM said 9/11 benefited them. Certainly doesn't benefit everyone else does it? ISIS fighters have been treated in Israeli hospitals.
 
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One of the other actors Ginnie Watson, took her youtube channel cos people were accusing her of fraud. You can find her other work, she had 2 different stories for her interviews too.

If it is scripted and they are paying her, why did she have two stories?
 
Rehearsed lines, crisis actors, that's how these things work. Even if there other eye witnesses, say the ones who heard the bombs over the loudspeaker, they won't be interviewed. They've already chosen people to interview before hand, conveniently Luigi's daughter was there :D
presenter said she was in concert hall and Luigi says at the soccer game lol. Explosion didn't happen at half time but at 16 minutes



Yes but you expect hardcore tattooed, strange haired rock and metal fans to be upfront don't you? I can't see any

Yeah it's all about the discipline, eat with the right hand, give and take things off people with right hand. No upside down shoes in the house. Step into mosque with right foot, step out with left. They can't even get their stories straight with the actors and the media and officials. You think they gona look into little things like that?Maybe now if someone's spying on here lol. To them it's all about "Allahu Akbar" and beards and hijabs and jihad derp derp

Are you having some form of mental breakdown or something? Is you posting this rubbish a cry for help?
 
If it is scripted and they are paying her, why did she have two stories?

My bad it was the details of the story, just like Bush on 9/11. Everyone can remember where they were on 9/11 but he had a different story a couple of months later? There are some instances when a crisis actor is stuttering and the presenter tells them their next line lol.

Are you having some form of mental breakdown or something? Is you posting this rubbish a cry for help?

It's called scrutiny and detail. As long as you hear it's a muslim terrorist attack and beautiful young people died enjoying their freedoms it's ok? Don't need to question anymore then that?
 
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Yes but you expect hardcore tattooed, strange haired rock and metal fans to be upfront don't you? I can't see any

Because EODM are not a 'death metal' band, quite the opposite if you care to research.

That would quite easily explain the broad spectrum of people in the crowdf.
 
My bad it was the details of the story, just like Bush on 9/11. Everyone can remember where they were on 9/11 but he had a different story a couple of months later? There are some instances when a crisis actor is stuttering and the presenter tells them their next line lol.
I think I am right in saying people who witness traumatic events do get some details wrong.

In fact, as I typed that I realised that I can give you an eye witness account of that happening.
 
Because EODM are not a 'death metal' band, quite the opposite if you care to research.

That would quite easily explain the broad spectrum of people in the crowdf.

My bad so all the fans are tattooless hipsters? I didn't realise the genre had gotten so stale. Watch their interview compared to Ginnie Watson and Emma Parkinson. I guess only one person was filming the show? Where are the accounts of the other 1400+ people? As long you have a few characters portraying sadness, it musta happened!!
 
To be honest if I went through that I'd delete the footage and try to forget about it not post it on social media for the inevitable "attention whore" comments.

I think I am right in saying people who witness traumatic events do get some details wrong.

In fact, as I typed that I realised that I can give you an eye witness account of that happening.

People tend to forget details about traumatic events from my experience. The human brain is wired to fill in these gaps.

Not so sure about the second half though.
 
My bad so all the fans are tattooless hipsters? I didn't realise the genre had gotten so stale. Watch their interview compared to Ginnie Watson and Emma Parkinson. I guess only one person was filming the show? Where are the accounts of the other 1400+ people? As long you have a few characters portraying sadness, it musta happened!!

But an eye witness who has a contrary recollection of events can upload their video to Youtube and it would be all over the world in seconds.
 
People tend to forget details about traumatic events from my experience. The human brain is wired to fill in these gaps.

Not so sure about the second half though.

OK, my wife witnessed an assault, to this day, even though she knows she is wrong, she would still tell you that she saw x when she didn't.

That isn't her telling lies, just how she remembers it.

To put it into context, even the defence said her evidence was credible.
 
To be honest if I went through that I'd delete the footage and try to forget about it not post it on social media for the inevitable "attention whore" comments.

I get that but there was 1411 people not shot and ran away and where is there footage? It was dark so chances of traumatic things being on show is slim. There wasn't much screaming in the interior shot either.

But an eye witness who has a contrary recollection of events can upload their video to Youtube and it would be all over the world in seconds.

Sure, if it was a real event. If you check other crisis actors they wipe away tears that aren't even there. The actors running outside would have been told to not use their phones for video, otherwise they don't get paid. Please look at this video
notice the glitch on the building at the 13 sec mark? That is cos they are using green screen to prop the window dwellers up. Keep your eyes on the couple on the upper windows. Also go to google map and the see the gap between the windows is much bigger. Near the beginning a guy in a white top just casually falls over in the middle of the street and then just strolls off lol.

What about an actual funeral for an actual person? Is that convincing enough for you?

Mock funerals are part of Covert Operations yes but it's much cheaper to get flowers and candles. A celebrity though adds a dash of sparkle. They had a mock funeral for Noah Pozner in Sandy Hook but his picture showed up in the Pakistan shooting a year later lol. Now I don't know if they are careless or deliberately messing with us lol
 
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So where do you think they're hiding the people who "died"?

No one died or very few people died. I know it's hard to comprehend but please look in the details and the information being hidden and presented. Look at the CCTV footage of the cafe, someone is throwing confetti in front of the camera to simulate windows being broken but there's no glass on the floor. A "bomb went off" inside one of the cafes but the cups weren't even knocked over. Once you realise these events are put on to traumatise the public and slowly implement a police state you'll see things differently. Remember Bush said the terrorists won't take our freedoms? Well the patriot act can call anyone a terrorist and lock them up without trial and they recently updated it to include America in the "battlefield". They implemented another law after a fake shooting so that people can report you for no reason and they take your guns away and they don't have to answer to why. This is why America is obsessing over guns at the moment, people buy more guns as a result of shootings but they implement more laws to make it harder to get guns. To some this may seem common sense but when the shooting is staged it's a different ball game. Expect a major false flag blamed on Iran, maybe not in the west but on Israel or American base. Brazil refused an Israeli ambassador so maybe ISIS will find its way there.
 
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Yeah but soldiers get years of training but she pledges allegiance to isis and now she's a hardcore killer?

You sound like an employer from the 1950's arguing why women shouldn't be paid the same as men as "they can't carry as much". ;)

As has been said the likes of modern armour doesn't weigh that much, and is certainly easy enough to wear. Weight isn't the issue, it's distribution, which is why if you get that right you can carry a lot more for longer*. It's one of the reasons people will spend time redistributing items on their person after using some, if they get unbalanced with their load it is harder to keep moving for as long and increases the chances of an injury.

You don't have to be massively strong or tough to wear it, and I doubt she was carrying a backpack full of supplies unlike soldiers, in which case her total "load out" being carried was probably not much more than would be carried as shopping, given an AK47 for example weighs around 4kg, so 4 bags of sugar or flour, a couple of bottles of coke, or a large newborn baby (something that is far more unwieldy than a weapon, and yet women throughout the ages have managed to carry them around for very prolonged periods of time). .


*One of the reasons those baby carriers that strap the baby to your front or back are popular, and I've not noticed women having massive problems with them, even with large babies.
 
Look at the CCTV footage of the cafe, someone is throwing confetti in front of the camera to simulate windows being broken but there's no glass on the floor.

As per my earlier post look at the aftermath images of the cafe - most of the bullets went through making holes in the pane (turning the bit they hit into powder) but not shattering the whole pane - laminated glass and similar types typically used in commercial buildings typically doesn't just explode like in the movies.

The debris infront of the camera is what is kicked up when the rounds having gone straight through the window (typically deflected a little on passing through) impact in the walls and ceiling at the back of the room.

This is from the other cafe but it shows it plainer
And Bonne Biere: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/paris-café-reopens-1.3350261
 
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You sound like an employer from the 1950's arguing why women shouldn't be paid the same as men as "they can't carry as much". ;)

As has been said the likes of modern armour doesn't weigh that much, and is certainly easy enough to wear. Weight isn't the issue, it's distribution, which is why if you get that right you can carry a lot more for longer*. It's one of the reasons people will spend time redistributing items on their person after using some, if they get unbalanced with their load it is harder to keep moving for as long and increases the chances of an injury.

You don't have to be massively strong or tough to wear it, and I doubt she was carrying a backpack full of supplies unlike soldiers, in which case her total "load out" being carried was probably not much more than would be carried as shopping, given an AK47 for example weighs around 4kg, so 4 bags of sugar or flour, a couple of bottles of coke, or a large newborn baby (something that is far more unwieldy than a weapon, and yet women throughout the ages have managed to carry them around for very prolonged periods of time). .


*One of the reasons those baby carriers that strap the baby to your front or back are popular, and I've not noticed women having massive problems with them, even with large babies.

Equal work for equal pay. I've held and fired an AK-47 though and it felt a lot heavier then 4 kilos. It did have a dual jungle clip though. I just realised we're talking about ak-47s but "they used" AR-15 and these other jobbies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nardino-shooters-were-strikingly-militarized/ I tried to build it on here but too much effort lol http://www.ar15builder.com/. Excuse my skepticism of a drill that just happened to turn into an active shooter event, yet again. No doubt they'll use this event to impose restrictions on rifles.
 
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