36 in a 30 - take the hit?

darwin1859

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Received a ticket through the post, from a mobile camera for 36 mph in a 30 zone. I was not pulled over. I have no points or previous offences.

From the letter they sent, it sounds like they will offer a SAC. I'm not sure whether to just take the course, or if it's worth asking for more evidence?

I've been told it might be worth asking to see the calibration certificate for the camera, and/or photo evidence that I was driving (my dad occasionally drives the car, so not 100% sure it was me).

Would it be worth writing to them asking for either of these, or would this potentially jeopardise their offer of a SAC?
 
Fairly sure that they won't show any photographic evidence without it going to court, in which case the offer of a SAC will be withdrawn (Wife had one a few months ago, and I'm sure it said something to that effect on it - although different constabularys could be different).

Personally would just suck it up and go on the awareness course. You don't have to declare that to insurers (unless they specifically have a question that asks for it), so no change in premium.
 
Go to the SAC.

36 in a 30 would be over 40 indicated, so you should pay attention to your speed :)
 
If you are not 100% sure it was you then you should be seeking to establish that. You should be reasonably able to establish this without photo evidence based on the timings alone.

For every other thing you are considering, don't waste your time. The device WILL be calibrated.
 
If you are genuinely not sure who was driving, then yes, you should ask for photos to assist with the identification of the driver.

It's nearly impossible to make these things go away nowadays, and particularly for that speed it's definitely worth just taking the SAC. The chance of them having made any mistake in the recording of the speed is tiny, and even if they had, proving it in court is both difficult and expensive.
 
PMKeates said:
It won't be over 40 indicated. Try 38-ish.
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38ish, say 40? :p My point was being caught doing 36, and you'll have been doing more indicated so he/his dad should have been aware they were doing near 40 in a 30.
 
Yes great xs2man, we have already established that and I have already clarified on my point.
 
My missus got caught doing 33 in a 30, got offered the course, she looked into asking for evidence etc, basically you have to go to court for it, by then any offers are off the table and you could end up with a harsher sentence. Doing this basically means they have you by the balls and only the really brave will challenge it further.
 
xs2man said:
Exactly. My car read 1mph over apparently, at 70. Pretty sure it's almost bang on at these slow speeds too.
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My bike is bang on at 30. Indicated 30, gps 30. Wonder if the same goes for newer cars/other bikes.

OP, just go on the course. Better than points and better than the stress of going through court, surely?
 
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I did a SAC about 2 - 3 months ago for doing 32 in a 30. Cost me £90, but the cost seems to vary from £80 - £140. Mine was run by the AA the guys running it where ex police. Was an eye opening course even though it was 4 hours long (tea/coffee and biscuits supplied :) ), had a few laughs.

Before anyone asks about the speed, most counties no longer give 10% allowance as speedos are so accurate it is no longer a valid defence, also you really should be on or below the speed limit.

If I'd have asked for evidence then it would have waived my right to do the SAC, and then it would have gone to court and get 3 points plus a fine
 
Would you happen to have a copy of the original NIP you could show us? I've lost count of the number of people who've told me they've been caught at 31/32 in a 30, so far not one of them has been able to show any proof.
 
Ask for a picture to help identify who was driving, if for nothing else to give yourself a memento, & to make 'them' at least do a bit more work before taking your money. They will send this in response to an email/letter; no need for court etc.
Forget about the idea of contesting it.
Having been on a SAC I'd take the points/fine & save myself 5 hours. Particularly as you are clearly not a prolific speeder so will likely never be concerned about a totting up ban.
 
daffy4895 said:
Before anyone asks about the speed, most counties no longer give 10% allowance as speedos are so accurate it is no longer a valid defence, also you really should be on or below the speed limit.
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AFAIK sentencing guidelines have not changed & are still respected by all forces? (10% +2mph before action taken)
 
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