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Hitman and AMD in DX12 partnership
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No the consumer is not supporting there work unless the sponsor is getting a cut of the profits from the the sponsored product.
It does not matter if the last Gaming evolved sponsored game sold a billion copies, it makes no difference to AMD if it does not lead to more GPU sales.
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See it as you see it, I don't really care and was just my observation. Each to their own and all that. Just out of curiosity, would you buy Nvidia GPUS?
Well lets start ripping into you because you don't like his reasoning then. At what point does it become a personal attack. Was anyone here really surprised for him to make the decision he made, not really, so just let it go.
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Ive said i wouldn't buy Nvidia before, but i am now when Pascal comes out, as got no option
Tell that to those on here telling people to boycott gameworks titles then if it has no effect on the GPU industry, it's quite clear sponsored effects in games can sway peoples purchases.
Feel free to rip into my reasoning, it's a part of being on a forum and voicing your opinion. If you don't want people responding to others opinions or reasoning then what's the point in posting?
No it didn't surprise me but I'd still like to hear from him the reasons why.
Which I have just said unless it leads to a user buying there own product then a user just buying the game is not supporting there work which you were trying to claim.
So lamb not buying a game makes no difference to AMD, AMD don't make any money from the game.
AMD would rather Lamb bought an AMD gfx card than buy a game sponsored by them.
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I'm not looking for a reaction, I'm just airing my views. There's reasons AMD tiles run well, and thats generally because there is nothing in them to go wrong. All AMD do is stick their name on an AAA title. Nothing more. The last time they tried to get involved in a big way, well......we all remember BF4 dont we. Thats the difference with an AMD title and an Nvidia one.
Money isn't the only factor in supporting their work.
Brilliant reasoning, I can now relax and leave this thread.
It does not matter how they go about it, the end point is to sell more of there own product and unless a user buys there own product then a user is not supporting them.
You don't support a product by watching an advert of a product you support it by buying it.
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Which is exactly what sponsoring titles with effects is trying to make people do...
In LambChop's case, yes, it's highly unlikely he is going to get the game, enjoy the AMD effects and buy one of their cards. For others though it is a factor, quite a number of recent posts with people saying nVidia will be their next card because of gameworks.
Yes but i was not arguing against that because that is the norm.
The problem was you calming just buying the game is supporting them which it is not.
Okay so it may not support them directly, but it can indirectly.
Only if they are getting a cut of the profits from the sponsored product.
But that is my point, he and others who have the same view cannot replicate that same experience through other games etc. I don't particularly like supporting gameworks game especially if they are utterly broken on release but I have no choice unless I want to miss out on a lot of games. Where could I get the same experience, story as fallout 4, batman AK, watch dogs etc.?
You are "almost" as funny as flopper
At least the majority of AMD sponsored games have ran superbly on both vendors unlike the majority of nvidia sponsored games.... have you forgotten about batman AK, watch dogs, assassins creed unity, fallout 4 etc. But rather than putting all the blame on the gpu vendors, how about we put most of the blame at the ones who are more responsible? As in the developers..... Or is it easier just to hate on something because AMD are involved?
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Yes if we're talking direct support, but even that is questionable if they haven't paid for sponsorship as nVidia didn't with pcars, as they're effectively getting free advertisement for nothing.
Indirectly it really isn't difficult to see how buying sponsored products can support that brand in ways other than direct cash flow on purchase.
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Agreed.
Nvidia are cashing in on GW's with AMD users, I junked AMD and bought Nvidia because of GW's-not because I wanted to go Nvidia, it was purely because of the AMD lock out, GE titles run as good on Nvidia as they do on AMD so it's a win win for Nvidia and lose lose for AMD.
Agreed.
Nvidia are cashing in on GW's with AMD users, I junked AMD and bought Nvidia because of GW's-not because I wanted to go Nvidia, it was purely because of the AMD lock out, GE titles run as good on Nvidia as they do on AMD so it's a win win for Nvidia and lose lose for AMD.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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That's a bit different, It's not over the brand but over how Gameworks itself has affected a games performance.
What they got wrong is they need to understand that how it affects a games performance will be on a game by game basis, Not simply because Gameworks is involved but by how and what is implemented from it.
As i has said already, how a game is sponsored makes no difference when it come to a user buying the game. its makes no difference if the deal was for free advertising and a user buying the game would not change whether that happened or not as advertising is an upfront cost.
Can you buy any of the sponsored games directly from AMD or NV, no, you get them bundled with a gfx card.
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