The Gender Pay Gap Is Dead
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it is hardly fringe crazies... it is currently rather popular in student unions across the country
I'm not sure there is much data on how many feminists there are and frankly whether you define yourself as a feminist depends on the definition.... I mean can you provide any numbers of second wave feminists vs third wave feminists?
however I can provide some examples for you:
third wave feminist who believes she can't be racist to white men - by popular vote she was the diversity officer at a London University:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ent-on-Twitter-saying-kill-all-white-men.html
another union official - by popular vote she is the women's officer at Cardiff university - wanted to ban second wave feminist Germaine Greer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34626450
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Keep posting some crazies at lesser universities, you'll need a lot of them and they need to be influential before I'll agree that they now own the term feminist.
can you provide any data?
well I hear that pankhurst et al did a bit for equality, not sure if they went to cardiff uni and had 15minutes of fame for being a plum or not though.
I'd say the definition on the word feminism is
"the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."
If you want to change the meaning of the word I'd suggest the burden of proof lies with you...
Well you're not pointing out a lot you are pointing out 2 crazies in a country of millions of people who would likely read that definition of feminism and say it sounds fair enough to me, you included you feminist.
There is nothing wrong with that IMHO, I'd stand with the fathers for justice campaign as quickly as I'd stand up for womens rights. While we're at it equality doesn't always mean the same treatment, just equal chances. Women and Men have differences that should be addressed through different approaches to give equal chances.
Me too, I'd love to see Kovalev against Ronda Rousey
but by the definition of the word advocating equal rights is feminist and in my opinion that's no terrible thing. Still there should be a word for us equality loving guys too
There is a word for guys advocating feminasty 'equal' rights - beta
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Newsflash: Man believes that gender inequality has been solved.
Going back to an earlier part of the thread, Shared Parental Leave was brought in less than 12 months ago. Do you think that was really the last piece of the puzzle?
I don't think we'll have true gender equality until the suicide rates even out. It's a bit morbid but that's when we'll know that men are no longer seen as the main bread-winners and feel comfortable talking about their feelings.
We should mirror the Scandanavian system (not sure if it is all countries or just Norway) where both parents get the option of 1 year off.
But in Britain we need equality (unless it is an inequality of favour of women herp derp)
Me too, I'd love to see Kovalev against Ronda Rousey
There is a word for guys advocating feminasty 'equal' rights - beta
There is a word for guys using feminasty as an term, but let's not stoop so low.
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Newsflash: Man believes that gender inequality has been solved.
Parity doesn't mean we're done. Stop being flippant. My argument is that third-wave feminism is pushing for positive discrimination that isn't needed. In fact, the pendulum is now swinging the other way but you're not allowed to mention male problems because third wavers shout you down as they incorrectly assume that you're invalidating their needs or worse, denying equality.
Equality now is not going to be reached by pushing female problems alone or by prioritising them above male problems. Equality means addressing all problems for all people, equally. Explain to me how prioritising female issues above male helps achieve that?
True equalitarians need to distance themselves from the poison that third wave feminism has become so we can carry on with the good work.
Of course not.
If you read above, you'll see I'm very concerned about mental health issues.
It's a bit difficult for men to be comfortable talking about their feelings when SJWs shout them down, bully them or otherwise invalidate them. 'Male tears' ring any bells?