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Have you spoken to the school about the content and tone of his sessions?
Has anyone withdrawn their child from collective worship?
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No it all amounts to the same thing. A belief in a magical pixie that can heal all wounds and make everyone happy if you give £40 a month.
Sorry religion should be dropped period. The less people know about magical space pixies the better the world will be.
Maybe this 1hr should be used to teach mindfullness instead.
It really doesn't.
Learning about world religions is not even remotely the same as being religious, it's just part of understanding the world around you and the people who inhabit it because whether you like it or not, you will interact with these people at some point, why would you not want at least a basic understanding of their beliefs and behaviours?
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Difference being if it is taught as fact or fiction...
What?
RE lessons are factual sessions about various religions, what they believe, the festivals they celebrate, the rituals they undertake... It's to learn about other people and develop a proper understanding of them.
I think some people here have a seriously seriously misguided impression of what RE lessons are.
It's not even remotely about trying to teach people that God is real or anything.
I disagree, from personal experience of watching R.E. taught.
Disagree with what exactly? That it's about teaching about various religions?
No, that it's taught in an unbiased, external viewpoint kind of way.
Our "RESPECT" (not RE, no idea why) lessons were taught by someone who was clearly religious, as the manner in which Christianity was taught was vastly different to that of say Hinduism.
Sadly religion hides it's true face initially. Once you can convince a child that you know what is right and to follow you without question it's then easy as a brainwashed adult to be told the nasty side of things.
It's why studies show that children exposed to a religion are so much more gullible than those taught about religions early on in life.
See this for what it is, child abuse. It is dark age nonsense and it is time to smell the coffee.
Teach them the golden rule, and teach them Christian traditions you live in England. But it is morally bankrupt to teach kids who believe anything they are told to believe this manmade nonsense.
If I walked in a primary school and told kids that they would catch on fire if they do bad things I would be whisked away to a secure place.
I must admit i find the idea that Christianity/religion is needed for a proper moral compass bizarre given the main premise is worship me and do what i say no matter how evil or i will torture you for all time.
It also begs the question why is there any punshiments in religion?
Why cutting of hands or stoning for being gay or flogging or amy of that stufd when its all suposifly going ro be delt with in hell?
If judgemrnt is catried out after we have died why do religions all call for judgement and punsihments in life?
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Just to give an update, this is still rumbling on!
Trying to be helpful, I agreed to go in and see the Head to talk about my reasons, did this and left the session with the instruction that my view had not changed and that the withdrawal should take place.
This was two days before half term. Fast forward to last week and the eldest comes home with a letter in his bag saying I needed to attend a meeting with the Head and the Rector to discuss my reasoning and to confirm what my alternative supervision arrangements would be.
The following extracts from the Education Act should illustrate why this annoyed me:
"The parental right to withdraw a child from attending collective worship
should be freely exercisable and a school must give effect to any such
request. Parents are not obliged to state their reasons for seeking
withdrawal."
"A school continues to be responsible for the supervision of any child
withdrawn by its parent from collective worship."
I have therefore written back to the school over the weekend enclosing the relevant parts of the act and copying both the head of governors and the head of education at the local council.
This has been sent via recorded delivery.
If I don't receive a positive response in the next letter I may well consider a well worded letter from a solicitor.
Trying to be helpful, I agreed to go in and see the Head to talk about my reasons, did this and left the session with the instruction that my view had not changed and that the withdrawal should take place.
This was two days before half term. Fast forward to last week and the eldest comes home with a letter in his bag saying I needed to attend a meeting with the Head and the Rector to discuss my reasoning and to confirm what my alternative supervision arrangements would be.
The following extracts from the Education Act should illustrate why this annoyed me:
"The parental right to withdraw a child from attending collective worship
should be freely exercisable and a school must give effect to any such
request. Parents are not obliged to state their reasons for seeking
withdrawal."
"A school continues to be responsible for the supervision of any child
withdrawn by its parent from collective worship."
I have therefore written back to the school over the weekend enclosing the relevant parts of the act and copying both the head of governors and the head of education at the local council.
This has been sent via recorded delivery.
If I don't receive a positive response in the next letter I may well consider a well worded letter from a solicitor.
Possibly the Rector has kicked off about it after Head passed on your comments and wants a word with you directly to hammer it out.
Sounds a bit of a nightmare, on the whole. I get a bit twitchy about the religious angle at my son's school (age 6). Was quite upset to hear about him having to thank God for his lunch when he was in pre-school there.
Sounds a bit of a nightmare, on the whole. I get a bit twitchy about the religious angle at my son's school (age 6). Was quite upset to hear about him having to thank God for his lunch when he was in pre-school there.
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God does not make lunch! The lunch ladies do. As if he'd stoop above murder, jeez!
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wants child to learn about their religion
not happy when child learns about their religion
I give this thread an 8.2, I would read it again, the juicy flavours of fruit combined with the texture of the crumble make this one fascinating story.
update
good show on removal, and yeah, no need to attend, nut I would incase they do something stupid and expel him
not happy when child learns about their religion
I give this thread an 8.2, I would read it again, the juicy flavours of fruit combined with the texture of the crumble make this one fascinating story.
update
good show on removal, and yeah, no need to attend, nut I would incase they do something stupid and expel him
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Keep your kid well away.
How on Earth can anyone of reasonable mind still get on their knees and worship deities in 2016? I thought that nonsense was reserved for closed off tribes in nameless deserts and not those who actually have free will and access to facts and information. Madness.
How on Earth can anyone of reasonable mind still get on their knees and worship deities in 2016? I thought that nonsense was reserved for closed off tribes in nameless deserts and not those who actually have free will and access to facts and information. Madness.
I wont be having my child (when i have one) taught anything about religion. I will educate them on it.
TBH i would try to force my future childs school to remove my child from RE or RS entirely. There IS NO POINT in learning about some made up crap. Would much rather they be spending their time studying Maths or Science.
TBH i would try to force my future childs school to remove my child from RE or RS entirely. There IS NO POINT in learning about some made up crap. Would much rather they be spending their time studying Maths or Science.
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Understanding religion is important to be able to relate to other cultures.
I did RE at school and learnt a lot about what I know about Judaism, Sikhism, Christianity etc.
I don't believe in any God nor subscribe to any religion , but I'd still say it's an important lesson.
I did RE at school and learnt a lot about what I know about Judaism, Sikhism, Christianity etc.
I don't believe in any God nor subscribe to any religion , but I'd still say it's an important lesson.
I think you're well within your rights to tell them to(politely) **** right off. You've been to a meeting with the head to discuss it(which you didn't need to do), you've got the right to make the demand which you've made, there isn't anything else to discuss especially after you've already had to waste time with the first pointless meeting.