In conclusion, stop making things up
I'm so looking forward to your face at release time
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I'm so looking forward to your face at release time
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Yep
I'm so looking forward to your face at release time
So no comeback for that one then when presented with hard evidence
? My face will be a massively disappointed one just like everyone else's if the next gen is as terrible as you predict it will be.
"Look guys a card that performs as well as a 980...for £300!, YAY!"
As shown though, the 780ti was selling for around £500 in july and august 2014 and shortly after the 970 and 980 came out you could get one for £300.
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So no comeback for that one then when presented with hard evidence
My face will be a massively disappointed one just like everyone else's if the next gen is as terrible as you predict it will be.
"Look guys a card that performs as well as a 980...for £300!, YAY!"
I hope we see the new pascal even faster then 980Ti for £300. That would be killer. Will know soon either way?
Me too but I am staying conservative with my prediction and reckon the X70 card will be around 980Ti performance for ~£300 (a bit like the 970 to the 780Ti). Would be great if it was faster though.
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If you're set on a 970 and won't wait till the release of Pascal/Polaris, then there's a sale the 970s coming up on Monday, which should be just about as good a time as any to buy.
980 perf is 60% more perf than you can get from current £200 cards. It currently costs £400 for that level of perf.
And people /did/ buy 980s, so saying that you could only charge £150 for that perf is bonkers!
In fact, just take me as an example. I currently have a 280X. The 980 for me is 60% more powerful. I am /expecting/ to pay £300 for Pascal/Polaris and get that level of perf. I have the money waiting
You people expecting 980ti+ perf at £300 are probably going to be very upset.
I'm prepared to pay up to £500 for my next card, so I'm not basing my £150 for 980 performance levels on wishful thinking on my part. I'm basing it on logic.
New architecture, almost double the transistors compared to current 28nm GPU's = big performance increases. You're simply delusional if you think 980 performance levels will cost more than around £150.
What the devil..
What would the point of that be? I know AMD are not what they used to be, but I do not think Nvidia are ahead the way Intel are ahead of AMD to try doing that.
If small pascal does not match or beat 980Ti for £400 then it will be total fail.
With expectations like that, no wonder these companies are okay charging silly prices these day
With expectations like that, no wonder these companies are okay charging silly prices these day
Indeed!
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That 970 deal is not on the card alone. It'll be part of a bundle Gibbo said. After he said that I was like blah
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If new gen <£300 card cannot match or at least come close to the performance of 980Ti (especially with the die-shrink), then we are really getting screwed on forcing to pay price premium for extra performance that should come naturally with moving gen
I mean we have/had the Nano at around the £320-£350 mark that can be close to 980Ti and that's on 28nm! I just don't understand why some people have such low expectation, as if they were brainwashed into believing that it is the norm to get drip feed small % increase each gen...
I mean we have/had the Nano at around the £320-£350 mark that can be close to 980Ti and that's on 28nm! I just don't understand why some people have such low expectation, as if they were brainwashed into believing that it is the norm to get drip feed small % increase each gen...
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We're going from a 28 nm manufacturing process to a 16nm node. They skipped 22nm. That's never happened before. Performance gains are definitely going to be better than we're used to.
Expect all kinds of deals on 28nm hardware over the next couple of months, because stocks need to be cleared on the current mid to high end. These cards are all about to go eol. There might be a gem or two to be had, but for now, anyone with more than £300 budget for a new graphics card would be well advised to wait a couple of months.
Transistor count and clockspeed are a better guide to performance than what node is being used.
I'm still very happy with my 290 Tri-X - its heavily overclocked and seems to run everything at 1440p without much of an issue
I can see it lasting till next year - and since I've nearly had it 18 months or so and cost about 260 its been fantastic value
I can see it lasting till next year - and since I've nearly had it 18 months or so and cost about 260 its been fantastic value
Let's look at this logically then.
If you're releasing a 980 perf card at £150, what's coming in above that? A 980ti is 30% more powerful, so let's assume we can charge about 50% more. £225.
And your best mid-sized card (of the ones coming in 2016) is probably 980ti+30%. So what can we charge for that? Let's add another 50% to the price... giving us £340 for the top end card this year.
So (my estimation of) your predictions would be:
~980 perf: £150
~980ti perf: £225
~980ti x1.3 £340
Does that about cover it?
To me I look at that list and think the first two cards are /way/ under-priced. I'd absolutely love it to be true, and I'd bite the hand off the company prepared to give me 980ti perf for £225.