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C.R.A.Z.Y said:
We have been lucky to have be bought up in loving environments with choices and privileges that set us up for productive and positive futures. A huge percentage of criminals, murderers and violent people are raised in horrific environments, this has been studied to death and is clear as day in statistics.
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Hahaha, and this is justification? Also you don't know a thing about the bombers.
 
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No, you stated that people are a product of their environment, that i can accept in isolated abuse and violence cases.

In this case the environment is Islamic beliefs, yet you ignore that ?

You either believe 'the product of environment' or not - You cannot bend it to absolve religion.
 
Good piece in the Mail today by a muslim who talks sense.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3507086/Why-no-one-admit-way-western-Muslims-raise-children-fomenting-terror.html

Too many Muslim families in Britain and the rest of Europe isolate themselves from the out- side world. They deliberately turn their backs on it.
As a university lecturer, I hear this complaint from many Muslim students. And as a journalist, I receive countless letters every year from young people around the country who are in the same miserable dilemma, bitterly sad letters expressing a deep unhappiness which can provoke a kind of vengefulness against the wider world.

It is common to hear, for example, that when lectures and tutorials are over, Muslim students are forbidden by their families to fraternise with their peers. They can’t have a coffee in the canteen, much less go to the pub or a nightclub. Instead, they must go straight back to their parents.

If they do make friends, they are not allowed to bring them home. Their families refuse to permit any trace of the broader British community to cross their threshold: it has to be left on the doorstep.

So friends must be kept secret, which is often impossible when privacy in the family is banned. I know students who are not allowed even to talk on the phone at home without others listening.
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C.R.A.Z.Y said:
We have been lucky to have be bought up in loving environments with choices and privileges that set us up for productive and positive futures. A huge percentage of criminals, murderers and violent people are raised in horrific environments, this has been studied to death and is clear as day in statistics.
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Yet many do not come from such backgrounds at all. Many are well educated and with a good quality of life. You cannot explain this away by claiming they are victims of poverty and violence themselves.
 
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Thompson_NCL said:
Yet many do not come from such backgrounds at all. Many are well educated and with a good quality of life. You cannot explain this away by claiming they are victims of poverty and violence themselves.
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This is very true

Though seeing the state of our education system lately and what it produces, I wouldn't go so far as extrapolating they are intelligent people :p

It's more they are young, hot headed with a chip on their shoulder, being stirred up by anti-west sentiment and yes, being 'radicalised' by bad people with an agenda.
 
When you get down to brass tacks, Madrid, London, Lee Rigby, Paris, Brussels, the offenders were Muslim.

Trying to ignore this is laughable.
 
Zethor said:
That is a nice display of ignorance. I suggest you go to a Mosque from time to time and talk to the people there. You will find the following:

- the regulars tend to be oldish
- when asked why they are there the answer usually is 'for the health/happiness of my family' (superstition) or 'it's in the calendar' (tradition)
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I pass a Mosque most days and many of them are very young, we have quite a concentrated area in Cardiff where they all seem to live (which is expanding), if you go to a local school the majority of the 35+ children per class are all Muslim and it's been like this for over 10 years, a handful are probably white British at best.
 
OldCoals said:
When you get down to brass tacks, Madrid, London, Lee Rigby, Paris, Brussels, the offenders were Muslim.

Trying to ignore this is laughable.
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So? They were also apes. Let's hold chimpanzees accountable since they too are apes.

no one is denying these people were Muslim. The question is why you expect other Muslims to apologise and fix the issue. It makes no sense whatsoever.
 
I worked in Saudi Arabia for a few years, I can absolutely see the ape connection

Brainwashed braindead religious robots comes to mind
 
OldCoals said:
When you get down to brass tacks, Madrid, London, Lee Rigby, Paris, Brussels, the offenders were Muslim.

Trying to ignore this is laughable.
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Madrid was The Basque Sepratist group, Lee Rigby was staged, as there was no blood, the paris attacks were also staged.
 
Brevik was a Terrorist, Bush and Blair are Terrorists, Cameron and Obama are Terrorists, the EDL, BNP and BF are terrorists, but they are Christian terrorists.
 
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