Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%

  • Total voters
    1,005
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Out!!
I'm not going into it but from what I see on a daily basis then I want out!!
I love this country but it saddens me how it is going down the f'ing S bend!!
All you kb warriors who sit behind your desks etc and comment on how this that and the other without actually being and seeing grass roots should actually go and see people with no money who want to work but can't because his European cousin will work for less than they will because they can afford to due to the fact that they live in a house of multiple occupation.
If the shoe was on the other foot......
1 million Brits were to go and take jobs in Poland etc etc......
I dare say that there would be a few negative comments etc from their population \ government.

If they are working for less then minimum wage, report the employer.

If these people can't win a minimum wage job over someone that can hardly speak English, it's not the immigrant that's the problem.
 
If they are working for less then minimum wage, report the employer.

If these people can't win a minimum wage job over someone that can hardly speak English, it's not the immigrant that's the problem.

What if the employer are themselves past-immigrants and want to give their immigrant pals a job?

Its entirely legal, but its a bit harsh.
 
I can imagine that happens much less than an English person giving another English person a job over a more qualified foreigner because they feel more comfortable working with people from their own country.
 
What if the employer are themselves past-immigrants and want to give their immigrant pals a job?

Its entirely legal, but its a bit harsh.

I see we are back onto hypothetical anecdotes now.

Considering how many British jobs have been created and are driven by our rather favourable approach to foreign investment, that's not even a point. Yes, there exist 'you scratch my back/comrade' types but these are statistically balanced out by the flaunters on our side of the equation, ie the local employers who wouldn't give anyone a job but a Brit without an unusual accent (well Northerners might get a rough deal too ;)). Harsh, illegal, prejudiced, but it exists. Again, spending a bit more on enforcement and the Home Office, and not silly PR stunts would help.

Plus, if you're a business that exports services or goods, it's a competitive advantage to have a more global perspective and staff who can be sent out abroad or hired for your EMEA side of operations specifically, without a concern over their language skills, lack of cultural etiquette, qualifications etc. In the EU it's a doddle.

I'm not so keen on hampering our businesses with more costs, reduced competitiveness and extra paperwork on exit either, nor finding an emergency money tree to locate the extra funds for the expansion of the points based immigration system. And if we do end up with free movement, welp, that would be us in search of lost time again in an argument over nothing; since the situation would not change immigration-wise upon such a Brexit.

Avenged's covered the academia and research side of things anew recently. The bi-modal migration distribution had been debated to death in Feb. Same for the non-EU vs EU migrants. Continue to beat this hypothetical dead horse, if you wish.
 
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August 2015? But okay, same argument back as before, highlighted in the same article: http://www.niesr.ac.uk/publications/long-term-economic-impact-reducing-migration-uk#.VsRYj2TNyUk.

  • How'd the proportion of EU-born workers in the working age population change in the EEA or under EFTA?
  • What's your plan for up-skilling the population? And what has Brexit got to do with it?
  • How'd you replace the jobs created by the effects of foreign investment and economic activity?
  • If business cannot fill vacancies, what then? Force them to take just about anyone, or lose out?
  • How did you establish that for each person hired from the EU a native is denied a job? Pub anecdotes?
  • Imaginary zero-sum games playing up to popular myths and prejudices?
  • How'd leaving the EU increase public spending?
  • What guarantees that this public spending would bypass the normal bidding process and favour the home industries?
  • Do you plan all your Brexit strategies on popular media reports?


What's your special deal which magically solves all our structural economic problems, 're-opens the pits' and gives everyone a job, unskilled or otherwise, whilst simultaneously dropping net migration levels to the totemic 40,000 per year figure?
 
"Could be" is literally in the headline. The article is riddled with weasel-words so it can't be called outright bull, and the actual document title isn't even mentioned. Writing it off as typical Daily Heil nonsense is justified.

It's also from 2012 so I have no idea why it's been posted now. Maybe kindai can enlighten us as to why they felt posting it was relevant?
 
[Daily Express/Daily Mail] + EU + [could/might/plan to] = nonsense scare story.

Perhaps you could tell us what the EU's legislative plans include for the next few years then? Oh wait - you can't because they're delaying announcing that until after the referendum. What don't they want us to know?

Jean Claude Juncker said:
Britain is different. Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?
 
I think the EU did affect the classic car rules. All major components in a classic car have to be over 25 years old now. You can't put a newer part in there or it will lose its classic car status and the perks that go along with that.

We are also seeing those roadside emission testing laser systems being put up in the UK. These are going to catch engine mods for sure.
 
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