Is there a way to choose which updates you want? Whenever I install updates it tries to give me wrong drivers constantly and it messes up everything.
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Has the same potential problem of the other work arounds in that a future update could put you back at square one
I don't think so. Provided you've got windows update set that no updates are ever automatically installed, nothing should override that in future. I'm assuming the person I replied to has group policy enabled because I can see the words "some settings are managed by your organisation" on their windows update dialog.
If you block all future updates yeah but Windows 10 is ever changing new updates could make the tool incompatible and/or other behaviour.
I've had a few instances where I've blocked drivers i.e. previous to 1511 then with the next major update i.e. 1511 it ignored my settings and installed them anyway
Case in point one of my systems the older driver had some features that for some reason weren't in the newer driver (or not quire the same) - so I wanted to stay on the older driver - nothing technically "wrong" with the newer driver but without fighting Windows 10 it was hard to stay with what I wanted... horrid system.
I've had a few instances where I've blocked drivers i.e. previous to 1511 then with the next major update i.e. 1511 it ignored my settings and installed them anyway
Case in point one of my systems the older driver had some features that for some reason weren't in the newer driver (or not quire the same) - so I wanted to stay on the older driver - nothing technically "wrong" with the newer driver but without fighting Windows 10 it was hard to stay with what I wanted... horrid system.
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Well the 1511 update came out in November and the tool was last updated in January. Stop being no negative. 
edit: Actually, do what you like. I didn't last more than a week on my last attempt of using windows 10. Although I had found a hack to get WMC running and had updates disabled, it just didn't feel right to me and I'm much happier back on 8.1. To think I was all over Vista when that first came out.
edit: Actually, do what you like. I didn't last more than a week on my last attempt of using windows 10. Although I had found a hack to get WMC running and had updates disabled, it just didn't feel right to me and I'm much happier back on 8.1. To think I was all over Vista when that first came out.
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Well the 1511 update came out in November and the tool was last updated in January. Stop being no negative.
That is just an example - as the tool lags behind Windows updates (in that specific case a couple of months) it gives plenty of opportunity for problems and that assumes the author continues to support it and regularly.
edit: Actually, do what you like. I didn't last more than a week on my last attempt of using windows 10. Although I had found a hack to get WMC running and had updates disabled, it just didn't feel right to me and I'm much happier back on 8.1. To think I was all over Vista when that first came out.
Contrary to the perception some might get I'm not hanging onto older OSes - infact when properly setup there are some things in 10 that are a decent advancement on older OSes but I find way too many things that are complete sticking points for me to really embrace it.
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That was just the last update. Who said anything about how many updates there were before that?
edit: a quick search for a changelog found this,...
http://www.softpedia.com/progChangelog/Windows-Update-MiniTool-Changelog-250699.html
If you expand the details, it doesn't look like any changes were made when the newer build of windows 10 was released.
edit: just to be clear, I'm not saying people should use this tool to block certain updates and trust windows won't break it in future. Instead, group policy should be used to disable all automatic installation and all updates you want should be installed manually using this tool.
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Think you are missing my point
Say you've got a problem driver and use that tool to block it but continue to install other Windows updates - at some point one of those updates (usually a bigger update) makes changes that sidestep or reset your blocking of that driver/future versions of that driver only this time it breaks Windows making a right mess - or even a big problem if you can't even boot into Windows with that update - that could have been avoided.
You might think I'm being negative but I've run into stuff like a fair few times over the years but fortunately in 7, XP, etc. you can take full control over things like driver updates and completely stop Windows from ever trying to install a device driver (unless they changed the OS fundamentally in a future update and rolled out an update that made it like Windows 10 removing all those features).
Say you've got a problem driver and use that tool to block it but continue to install other Windows updates - at some point one of those updates (usually a bigger update) makes changes that sidestep or reset your blocking of that driver/future versions of that driver only this time it breaks Windows making a right mess - or even a big problem if you can't even boot into Windows with that update - that could have been avoided.
You might think I'm being negative but I've run into stuff like a fair few times over the years but fortunately in 7, XP, etc. you can take full control over things like driver updates and completely stop Windows from ever trying to install a device driver (unless they changed the OS fundamentally in a future update and rolled out an update that made it like Windows 10 removing all those features).
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Think you are missing my point
Say you've got a problem driver and use that tool to block it but continue to install other Windows updates - at some point one of those updates (usually a bigger update) makes changes that sidestep or reset your blocking of that driver/future versions of that driver only this time it breaks Windows making a right mess - or even a big problem if you can't even boot into Windows with that update - that could have been avoided.
Ironically, that's exactly the issue this tool is trying to address. A driver update (this time forced by MS) that breaks the system, sometimes with catastrophic effect. Better to block that now and worry about "maybes" in the future, rather than have MS install a broken driver at every boot and hose your system from now till forever.
It's a balance between a known problem today, and a possible one in the future. What choice does he have if MS is continually installing a broken driver right now and doesn't supply a built-in, official mechanism to stop that?
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You didn't even read my post...
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Even though there are options to hide things, I'd just leave everything in plain view and tick the boxes of ONLY the things you want to install. I don't see how it gets any simpler than that.
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I would not put it past them to release an update changing this and adding Windows 10 as a full update that therefore cannot be bypassed...
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Anybody know the date when Microsoft will start charging for Win 10.
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Sorry, bit slow to reply!
If I kept getting frequent power cuts I'd absolutely be annoyed at the power company and might contact them; but even if I chose not to go that route it would still easily be my choice to purchase some form of UPS and have control over my setup in that respect...
Nobody is asking Microsoft to disable updates for everybody or anything so extreme, just give users some form of flexibility over when and how the updates are applied. All it would take is a simple option such as:
"How should downloaded updates be installed?
1. Install and reboot automatically
2. Install and reboot on next shutdown
3. Turn on, Install and reboot automatically between the times I specify
4. Ask me if I want to install pending updates each time I shutdown
"
Job done... People who are happy with MS's default (option 3 I guess?) can happily just leave it alone... people who don't want their machine rebooting without their say-so can select an option they'd prefer
Indeed - even though our electricity here is incredibly reliable I've a couple of UPS to minimise any disruption (largely to protect the NAS more than anything though) but ultimately that would be my choice how much I was prepared to tolerate potential restarts. The fact that sometimes it happens doesn't mean that more reasons for it sometimes happening is a good thing/isn't a bad thing.
My preferred behaviour would be:
-No automatic restarts
-Notify (discretely) for actual important updates/large service packs
-Notify and download actual critical updates i.e. major security issues
-Don't notify or download driver updates and other OS patches or upgrades (I check for these myself if I need them/on a semi regular basis)
-Option to apply pending downloaded updates on shutdown
(the option to shutdown without applying updates does now exist but doesn't change the rest of the behaviour).
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End of July isn't it? I might be wrong
29th 2015.
I knew you would say that.
So your concerned enough about keeping your PC on that you would go to the lengths of buying a UPS, but not concerned enough to take 3 seconds to see if a reboot is scheduled before setting off a nights worth of video rendering.
Ok.
You means to say they are going to charge for this crap.
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of course, they're not going to give it away forever 