Anti-austerity protest brings 50,000 to the streets of London to demand David Cameron's resignation

[dowie]

Just to point out: protests are a pretty fundamental aspect in any democracy. God forbid an active government gets held to account.

protests are all well and good but in this instance are pretty futile

'we don't like the guy that was democratically elected'

well so ****ing what

 

[dowie]

If only. Unfortunately, what we have instead is a system where only people in a handful of marginal constituencies get a say in who runs the country.

not really, just look at what happened in Scotland for example or the senior labour figures losing seats or look at the lib dems losing MPs - tis more than just a handful of constituencies changing hands, the only people who can really make that claim are the Speaker's constituents

anyway we've already had one referendum on changing from FPTP to a form of PR and it got rejected by the public

 

[Stretch]

if only we had some system whereby people could all have a say regarding which group of people got to run the country....

If only we had a system where people weren't told how to vote by a self serving media, and bought and paid for politicians.

 

[Duke]

It does not make sense for auterity if you spend billions bombing women and children in other countries.

How much is trident 20bn . We either murder people or invest in people ?? Or change the ones making the current choices.

 

[dowie]

If only we had a system where people weren't told how to vote by a self serving media, and bought and paid for politicians.

you'd want to get rid of the media? Or just media reporting on politics? Having a free press is pretty essential to democracy.

as for bought and paid for politicians - we've got pretty tight caps on political spending, go look at the US for a real example of bought and paid for politicians

 

[Skeeter]

The problem with giving everyone the vote means idiots get a vote. And think their important.

 

[Nix]

protests are all well and good but in this instance are pretty futile

'we don't like the guy that was democratically elected'

well so ****ing what

Maybe because he's broken electoral pledges?

Maybe because he's a liar?

Maybe because he's forcing through an ideologically and demonstrably unneeded austerity agenda hurting the poorest in society, claiming "we're all in this together," whilst hiding his assets abroad?

Maybe because he's trying to privatise national interests so he can line his and his friend's own pockets?

Do you really think people are going to ****ing sit back and watch that happen without saying something?

You would also be the first person to claim these same people deserve whatever happens due to them if they chose not to protest. "It's your own fault for not saying something."

 

[Caged]

as for bought and paid for politicians - we've got pretty tight caps on political spending, go look at the US for a real example of bought and paid for politicians

On a sort of related note I do find it concerning that there seems to exist a revolving door between people involved with making policy and the private sector organisations that benefit from those policies.

 

[dowie]

Maybe because he's broken electoral pledges?

Maybe because he's a liar?

Maybe because he's forcing through an ideologically and demonstrably unneeded austerity agenda causing the poorest in society, claiming "we're all in this together," whilst hiding his assets abroad?

Maybe because he's trying to privatise national interests so he can line his and his friend's own pockets?

Do you really think people are going to ****ing sit back and watch that happen without saying something?

You would also be the first person to claim these same people deserve whatever happens due to them if they chose not to protest. "It's your own fault for not saying something."

LOL so basically sounds like a lot of butthurt really, he's the ideological opposite of what they believe in, well Labour didn't win so tough luck

as for what I'd be the first to claim, wind your neck in - when have I ever advocated protesting on these grounds?

 

[robfosters]

The argument for me is simple. We voted the Tories in on a manifesto that they have gone back on at every opportunity. They quite simply lied their way to power.

I'm not a leftie by any means, but I'd happily stand with them today.

 

[Cosimo]

Maybe because he's broken electral pledges?

Maybe because he's a liar?

Maybe because he's forcing through an ideologically and demonstrably unneeded austerity agenda causing the poorest in society, claiming "we're all in this together," whilst hiding his assets abroad?

Maybe because he's trying to privatise national interests so he can line his and his friend's own pockets?

Someone bring on the violins as bleeding hearts have been broken.

 

[dowie]

On a sort of related note I do find it concerning that there seems to exist a revolving door between people involved with making policy and the private sector organisations that benefit from those policies.

yup, but that is rather different - in particular things like HMRC staff getting tax advisory/consulting roles or ex senior military officers getting plum jobs at defence firms

 

[CREATIVE!11]

The voting system in this country is archaic and ********.

People did vote for different stuff, but their votes didn't matter cause our broken ass system.

Maybe because he's broken electoral pledges?

Maybe because he's a liar?

Maybe because he's forcing through an ideologically and demonstrably unneeded austerity agenda hurting the poorest in society, claiming "we're all in this together," whilst hiding his assets abroad?

Maybe because he's trying to privatise national interests so he can line his and his friend's own pockets?

Do you really think people are going to ****ing sit back and watch that happen without saying something?

You would also be the first person to claim these same people deserve whatever happens due to them if they chose not to protest. "It's your own fault for not saying something."

Yup...

 

[dowie]

The voting system in this country is archaic and ********.

People did vote for different stuff, but their votes didn't matter cause our broken ass system.

yet when we had a referendum on changing the broken ass system 5 years ago people voted against it

 

[Nix]

so basically sounds like a lot of butthurt really, he's the ideological opposite of what they believe in, well Labour didn't win so tough luck

as for what I'd be the first to claim, wind your neck in - when have I ever advocated protesting on these grounds?

You can't see how your attitude is the problem?

You're complaining about people exercising their democratic right to protest.

You're brushing over just how corrupt and unfair our 'democratic' system is. Despite what you may think, Britain is not a meritocracy, it is very much an oligarchy based on a class system and the business elite.

Worst of all, you're dehumanising and invalidating people's genuine and legitimate concerns.

Butthurt? Yes, you keep telling yourself that. Whatever keeps you in blissful ignorance.

 

[stewski]

yet when we had a referendum on changing the broken ass system 5 years ago people voted against it

That vote was gimped by the Liberals who only offered AV.

 

[Rroff]

Maybe because he's broken electoral pledges?

Maybe because he's a liar?

Maybe because he's forcing through an ideologically and demonstrably unneeded austerity agenda hurting the poorest in society, claiming "we're all in this together," whilst hiding his assets abroad?

Maybe because he's trying to privatise national interests so he can line his and his friend's own pockets?

Do you really think people are going to ****ing sit back and watch that happen without saying something?

You would also be the first person to claim these same people deserve whatever happens due to them if they chose not to protest. "It's your own fault for not saying something."

There is some merit there - his "we are all in it together" sounds very hollow when you see his actual financial situation regardless of the legality of it and it is very demonstrable that there is an undesirable trend towards privatisation that is at the detriment of the general population.

Austerity though I disagree with those vehemently against it as while it might not be the biggest and fastest returns and might not compare to what some countries like Germany are managing - the implementation gives us much more resilience against a sudden burst at a time when things are generally quite balanced on a knife edge and those big gains some countries are making could very much crash the other way. In the long run we want to be moving away from it but not at the pace some are advocating who are too greedily looking at the gains and glossing over the pitfalls.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

yet when we had a referendum on changing the broken ass system 5 years ago people voted against it

Lets be real, how many people actually knew what they were voting for? why would you vote against equal representation unless you are a total idiot?

I bet there was a great spin campaign put on it too to convince people to keep the system.

IF YOU DON'T VOTE THIS WAY YOU'LL LOSE YOUR PENSION!!1! then people go out and just vote cause a leaflet told them so.

 

[Skeeter]

blah blah blah

Your signature is particularly apt to be placed below your posts.

 

[CREATIVE!11]

Your signature is particularly apt to b placed below your posts.

Maybe because it goes over your head, you have problems comprehending it. It's ok, that's the face I pull to the special kids like you.