Drone hits passenger jet

ianh said:
He said Remote Control vehicles, not real ones.

The control for these drones operates on known frequencies (from my RC boat days), would it be something as simple as finding out what airport/aircraft equipment operates on the same frequencies and, if the answer is none, add high power transmitters (acting as jammers) to block/over-power the drones receiver, stopping it's use?

I understand some drones come with a "return to home" function if the drone loses signal so it's not like drones would start falling out the skies :D
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Iirc isnt it 14, 35 and 40mhz for remote control aircraft (citation needed)? There's 2.4 and 5ghz as well but a jammer would screw up the wifi of everyone in the vicinity of the airport.

Not a bad idea though, ban the use of 2.4 and 5ghz for the control element (onboard cameras etc could still transmit for live 'drone view', just no control) and use jammers at airports for the other frequencies.

It would mean no more drones that can be controlled just by a mobile phone as you'd need a dedicated transmitter to control it
 
You can't legislate for stupidity I'm afraid. Only those with sense know what the rules actually are and care enough to stick to them.

I was talking to a fellow club member TODAY, who flew his own Trex 450 up and down his own street! Now, the Trex 450 is an RC helicopter that swings 325mm carbon fibre blades at about 3000rpm. Those blade tips are going about 300mph, and that's not a typo.

After I pointed out his stupidity, he then confessed to flying it in his back garden with his kids playing just a couple of feet away, and he didn't realise what he'd done until he'd landed! Just to make it clear, a helicopter that size could have easily permanently disabled his child, and possibly killed them.

To add to that, those who want to break the law will, regardless of what it says. The US registration thing is a total joke. If you're going to be reckless with your RC aircraft over 250g (the US manatory weight for registration), then you just won't register.

If this plane was hit by a drone, then it can't have done any or much damage if it was cleared to make its next flight.
 
This is yet another example of the behaviour of a few ruining things for the many.

Flying a mid-sized drone near and aircraft is the definition of stupid.

This is why we can't have nice things in the UK.
 
There should be a register that your details are entered on at the point of sale no matter who sells them and sellers should be licensed, failure to comply by the seller in any way will result in big fines and possible licence revoked.

Failure by the buyer to want to register equals no sale, simple.

Irresponsible and illegal flyers should serve time in prison for the most severe or danger to life actions.
 
If they made it such that you have to buy one in person and have your details taken like with air rifles these days then that would be a move I wouldn't be against - it would form the basis for a national register of sorts.

It might slow sales for a time but it hasn't dampened peoples ability to buy air files or air soft weapons for that matter (with UKARA licensing) so I shouldn't think it would harm the UAV makers pockets in the long run!
 
The trouble is though people can make these from individual components that have other uses.
 
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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Birds are squishy with hollow bones. Drones are metal/plastic with lithium cells and motors. I'm not sure engines are tested against anything like that, I'd certainly not write it off that easily. They're going to turn into sharpenel which has downed planes before.
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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Get any ketchup or brown for that?

I'm pretty sure drones have dense, heavy components to them...you know, like batteries. Birds don't have batteries in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_object_damage

Source makes your statement look like the baloney everyone's said it is!
 
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Sadly this is like the whole "guns kill people" argument . Nope, Idiots kill people. Who in their right mind would think it's a good idea to fly a drone over an airport...
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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Nobody knows what will happen if a drone goes through a jet engine, because it hasn't been tested, the blades are designed to cut through birds and resist things like ice and water, but drones with metal parts other such things, haven't been tested, likewise with the windshield - has been tested with birds etc, but a drone - nobody knows what would happen if one hit the windshield whilst the pilot was landing.

(source: my sisters husband, who designs jet engines for RR)
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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Thats just absolute nonsense. Engines are designed to contain a failure i.e they won't explode outwith themselves, causing damage to other parts of the aircraft. A single bird, or a drone will damage the engine to the point that is inoperable, and shut down. Even if the damage is minor, the crew still hvae to follow the procedure of shutting down the engine to prevent any further damage.
 
itchy said:
BREAKING NEWS TODAY!!!

Fly hits car. :rolleyes:

Jet engines are designed to eat birds, yes a flock will cause trouble but a drone or single bird nope.
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I'm not sure what your point is, would you be happy to be on a plane coming into landing and have a drone hit the engine? Would you be happy for your family and friends to be on that plane, because it'll probably be ok?
 
Clum said:
Thats just absolute nonsense. Engines are designed to contain a failure i.e they won't explode outwith themselves, causing damage to other parts of the aircraft. A single bird, or a drone will damage the engine to the point that is inoperable, and shut down. Even if the damage is minor, the crew still hvae to follow the procedure of shutting down the engine to prevent any further damage.
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Why would you want the plane in that position in the first place? The threshold for passenger safety should be zero. Always.
 
Arazi said:
How do you even compare the two, nearly every thread you comment in is similar by totally missing the point in your opinions.
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My point was people do illegal things with perfectly legal items all the time - it doesn't mean those "items" will be made illegal.

Restrictions/licensing/monitoring yes - illegal, no.
 
Drones are very lightweight and small, a plane tearing down the tarmac at 150mph is going to throw up stones, rubber debris etc the engines just eat it up.

Its just a scare story as usual.

Drones are not made of iron, even the batteries weigh nothing so the is no density to any part of a drone.

Now if it was a big drone as in the £1000+ ones yes, but a drone from argos is not going to bring down a plane.

I agree they should not be flown around airports and the retard that done it needs arresting. But to say a cheap drone can bring a plane down is ridiculous.

Same with the laser pointer thing and planes its just scare, scare.

A chicken has a higher density then a cheap drone.
 
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